What are you cunts doing over there? I just read about Victoria's new laws concerning protesting: Protesters can now be charged $750 or 2 years jail. [Source ]
Same with Queensland and their "Anti-Associating laws". Can some one over there explain why this is going on?
Aphex
2014-03-12 14:42:00 UTC
Crotchrockety
2014-03-12 15:42:00 UTC
Humm,
Twenty odd years ago the Austrailian citizens were disarmed for their protection. Crime rates increased.
Now their right to peaceably protest to redress grievances is being whittled away. The government can now summarily lock them up if they disagree with the government's mandates.
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson
Now, we're being fed a load of crap that disarming the populous will somehow protect us. The majority of Assuies bought into that load of crap.
“Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.” Edmund Burke
Twenty odd years ago the Austrailian citizens were disarmed for their protection. Crime rates increased.
Now their right to peaceably protest to redress grievances is being whittled away. The government can now summarily lock them up if they disagree with the government's mandates.
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson
Now, we're being fed a load of crap that disarming the populous will somehow protect us. The majority of Assuies bought into that load of crap.
“Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.” Edmund Burke
Colonel_Klinck
2014-03-12 15:55:00 UTC
I'm not going to get into a gun control argument as we will never agree. But I am guessing gun related crime/deaths from those guns banned have plummeted in Australia since they banned them.
Right to protest however should never be curtailed. One of our most basic human rights.
Right to protest however should never be curtailed. One of our most basic human rights.
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2014-03-12 16:00:00 UTC
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SDNerd
2014-03-12 22:30:00 UTC
Firearms ownership aside, I do not believe that the "right" to protest (a form of expression), is an inalienable or "basic human right". It should be IMO, but isn't.
While somewhat ancient in concept (a couple thousand years - maybe), freedom of expression is a modern philosophical idea in practice. In this country, the application of "Freedom of Speech" was born from tyranny, and why the First Amendment to our Constitution (and in support of that, the 2nd Amendment as well) - as part of the "Bill of Rights".
The UK, which purports to have as its constitution (which there is no single formal document for) a series of documents (body of law) that prescribe it, it is still all subject to Parliament, not the people directly per se, as in the US. In other words, similar law could be enacted in UK - which no doubt would be amidst protest. their law, therefore not really of my concern. I have no plans to go there and protest anything.
In fairness, there are constraints to the interpretation of our own "Freedom of Speech", which do not allow for violent protest (incitement of riot or other anarchy), screaming "fire" (false emergency) in a somewhat confined space with a sizable number of people present, attending university courses without clothing (silly example), and what have you.
Regarding the firearm buyback in Oz, I am not familiar with the crime statistics prior to, during, or shortly following this process - so I am in no position to comment. As for "success", what's the metric? What I do know, that for Australia at the time, it was very expensive (which is a societal cost).
Regardless gents, these are the laws of countries in which we don't all reside. What they choose to do, is up to that society (in this case - a state) or nation-state. Being judgmental about their choices (on a moto forum - lol), is unlikely to result in change.
While somewhat ancient in concept (a couple thousand years - maybe), freedom of expression is a modern philosophical idea in practice. In this country, the application of "Freedom of Speech" was born from tyranny, and why the First Amendment to our Constitution (and in support of that, the 2nd Amendment as well) - as part of the "Bill of Rights".
The UK, which purports to have as its constitution (which there is no single formal document for) a series of documents (body of law) that prescribe it, it is still all subject to Parliament, not the people directly per se, as in the US. In other words, similar law could be enacted in UK - which no doubt would be amidst protest. their law, therefore not really of my concern. I have no plans to go there and protest anything.
In fairness, there are constraints to the interpretation of our own "Freedom of Speech", which do not allow for violent protest (incitement of riot or other anarchy), screaming "fire" (false emergency) in a somewhat confined space with a sizable number of people present, attending university courses without clothing (silly example), and what have you.
Regarding the firearm buyback in Oz, I am not familiar with the crime statistics prior to, during, or shortly following this process - so I am in no position to comment. As for "success", what's the metric? What I do know, that for Australia at the time, it was very expensive (which is a societal cost).
Regardless gents, these are the laws of countries in which we don't all reside. What they choose to do, is up to that society (in this case - a state) or nation-state. Being judgmental about their choices (on a moto forum - lol), is unlikely to result in change.
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2014-03-12 22:54:00 UTC
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AGRO!
2014-03-13 01:04:00 UTC
The same thing is happening in the US anyhow its all about controlling the people.
The US president signed a agreament I think it was last year or maybe the year before but it states they have the right to lock any protestors or even religious people up indefenatly if they want and as they deem fit so you could be just walking down the road and seen as some sort of threat and get locked up its BS!
Have you guys heard of agenda 21 find it and have a read.
The US president signed a agreament I think it was last year or maybe the year before but it states they have the right to lock any protestors or even religious people up indefenatly if they want and as they deem fit so you could be just walking down the road and seen as some sort of threat and get locked up its BS!
Have you guys heard of agenda 21 find it and have a read.
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2014-03-13 01:54:00 UTC
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ktmguy
2014-03-13 02:03:00 UTC
Solution to all problems!
GUY FOR PRESIDENT!
Honestly, I'm the perfect candidate! I'm dumb, good looking, opinionated, middle aged, got acting skills and I think everyone is a c#&nt!
Poll is running!
BTW I got Bassies vote and AGRO's too!
GUY FOR PRESIDENT!
Honestly, I'm the perfect candidate! I'm dumb, good looking, opinionated, middle aged, got acting skills and I think everyone is a c#&nt!
Poll is running!
BTW I got Bassies vote and AGRO's too!
Davo-Singapore
2014-03-13 02:27:00 UTC
For our American friends. The gun buy back scheme was a very brave step taken by the Howard government to take as many guns off the streets as possible. The scheme cost the country millions but IMHO was worth every penny. This was achieved on the back of public sentiment immediately following the terrible Port Arthur massacre. Since then there has not been a repeat (heaven forbid). If Obama and the US government had grown a pair and did what the Howard Govt did (in the face of a lot of flack I might add) then a few less kids would have been murdered by gun toting idiots on the streets and in the schools there.
AGRO!
2014-03-13 03:20:00 UTC
Guy for President! Yes! Can i be your second in charge?
Have you noticed in the US that ammo is getting more expensive and harder to get?
If the people wont hand their guns in whats the next best thing to do?
Have you noticed in the US that ammo is getting more expensive and harder to get?
If the people wont hand their guns in whats the next best thing to do?
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2014-03-13 03:20:00 UTC
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ktmguy
2014-03-13 03:56:00 UTC
All I can say is that the perspective of the observer changes with his point of view!
Also we never had so many issues and arguments on this forum since the release of the SD1290 R.
I recon KTM is evil and that Pierer bloke is the new antichrist!
People get along please. We can argue about this till the cows come home and no solution will be found since there is none.
Violence is part of the human nature and no amount of silly rules and PC correctness will cure this.
I actually lived in many countries and I can tell you not one of them is perfect. This mostly due to bad leadership no matter how you look at it.
So go out for a ride, clear the head and answer my bloody question in the technical tread on the 1290 suspension!
Also we never had so many issues and arguments on this forum since the release of the SD1290 R.
I recon KTM is evil and that Pierer bloke is the new antichrist!
People get along please. We can argue about this till the cows come home and no solution will be found since there is none.
Violence is part of the human nature and no amount of silly rules and PC correctness will cure this.
I actually lived in many countries and I can tell you not one of them is perfect. This mostly due to bad leadership no matter how you look at it.
So go out for a ride, clear the head and answer my bloody question in the technical tread on the 1290 suspension!
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2014-03-13 04:14:00 UTC
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AGRO!
2014-03-13 04:59:00 UTC
You dudes ever seen this http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/Message.htm Makes we wonder what the!
BassAgent
2014-03-13 05:13:00 UTC
Nerd I swear whoever is telling you that you are smart needs to stop, like now. If you even made an attempt to overlook your whiny hatred of me, you would know exactly what I was talking about and not make a dumbass post like you just did lmao.
First of all, who fooking cares if noone else is using sources or not? Did you see me quoting their comments? I didn't think so smartypants. Common sense tells you that I was replying to the person I was replying to directly, directly. Haha you twat.
Second of all, in speedfiends original post, he mentioned "We haven't had the type of mass shooting that seems to be commonplace in the US for decades. DECADES. I wouldn't live in your country if my life depended on it - cos I'd be scared shitless I'd lose it to some gun crazy nut on a bender."
I'm trying to make it easy for your barney-style mind to comprehend here bahahaha.
He then goes on to say, "Don't believe everything you read" "the media's reporting of it is in total disproportion to what actually happened." and "They whip up a horde of citizens screaming for action"
Are you following yet? Lolol
As you can see, our friend speed here undoubtedly thinks gun crimes and mass shootings and crazy people are happening all the time over here in the U.S. Obviously something he read or saw on the news. Then he goes to say you can't believe the stuff being said on the news about his country because it's "in total disproportion". See it now big boy?
Class over. Dumbass. Lmao.
First of all, who fooking cares if noone else is using sources or not? Did you see me quoting their comments? I didn't think so smartypants. Common sense tells you that I was replying to the person I was replying to directly, directly. Haha you twat.
Second of all, in speedfiends original post, he mentioned "We haven't had the type of mass shooting that seems to be commonplace in the US for decades. DECADES. I wouldn't live in your country if my life depended on it - cos I'd be scared shitless I'd lose it to some gun crazy nut on a bender."
I'm trying to make it easy for your barney-style mind to comprehend here bahahaha.
He then goes on to say, "Don't believe everything you read" "the media's reporting of it is in total disproportion to what actually happened." and "They whip up a horde of citizens screaming for action"
Are you following yet? Lolol
As you can see, our friend speed here undoubtedly thinks gun crimes and mass shootings and crazy people are happening all the time over here in the U.S. Obviously something he read or saw on the news. Then he goes to say you can't believe the stuff being said on the news about his country because it's "in total disproportion". See it now big boy?
Class over. Dumbass. Lmao.
BassAgent
2014-03-13 06:15:00 UTC
I see a lot of things said, yet I see no factual sources being used. No statistics, no numbers, nothing. No population relations... no mention of rises in other violent crimes, etc. I've done extensive research on this subject. You can say what you want all day lol.
AGRO!
2014-03-13 06:45:00 UTC
One thing we have to remember also is that the US population is around 200 million compared to Australia's 20 million so there is going to be a big difference in crime between the two countries.
Just saying
Just saying
ktmguy
2014-03-13 07:17:00 UTC
At the end of the day if there is a zombie apocalypse both the US and Australia are fooked!
Australia because we don't have guns, the US coz the zombies have guns too!
Australia because we don't have guns, the US coz the zombies have guns too!
Colonel_Klinck
2014-03-13 07:41:00 UTC
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2014-03-13 08:27:00 UTC
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Colonel_Klinck
2014-03-13 08:49:00 UTC
I already am a real Colonel
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Davo-Singapore
2014-03-13 18:20:00 UTC
You found that in 3 minutes. Must not have read it if that's what you are using as your argument haha. I can take One set of data found on 1 site and make it whatever I want it to be also. Too bad things are more complex than that.There are sooooooooooooo many different factors that an article like this is NOT including just to push their agenda on uninformed, easily-influenced people. You'd have to have no ability of critical thinking to take that at face value.
SDNerd
2014-03-13 18:55:00 UTC
you said that there were no statistics that linked number of guns to number of gun deaths on a per capita basis
yes the study even said that it may be skewed or flawed, but come on, 10:1 even you would have to admit that this isn't a statistical anomaly
here is another
going by this, we American seem to off ourselves a heck of a lot more than all but two countries, on a per capita basis with firearms, but still 10:1
show me something that shows the opposite and then we can discuss.
added some information from the CDC that seems to collaborate the numbers cited previously :
yes the study even said that it may be skewed or flawed, but come on, 10:1 even you would have to admit that this isn't a statistical anomaly
here is another
going by this, we American seem to off ourselves a heck of a lot more than all but two countries, on a per capita basis with firearms, but still 10:1
show me something that shows the opposite and then we can discuss.
added some information from the CDC that seems to collaborate the numbers cited previously :
ktmguy
2014-03-13 19:31:00 UTC
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BassAgent
2014-03-13 22:32:00 UTC
[/quote]
I got a spot for you in my dungeon! [/quote]
I'm up for it. You picked Bic and I right. We'll be dropping some tunes on vinyl. There will be lots of "so on" too.
I got a spot for you in my dungeon! [/quote]
I'm up for it. You picked Bic and I right. We'll be dropping some tunes on vinyl. There will be lots of "so on" too.
ktmguy
2014-03-13 22:50:00 UTC
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AGRO!
2014-03-14 00:24:00 UTC
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ktmguy
2014-03-14 02:04:00 UTC
ktmguy's got my vote for president. That's a solid platform you got started there lol
DribbleDuke
2014-03-14 03:11:00 UTC
Update while the glue is drying... (too much time to think)
EDIT:
Motoronin has kindly requested to be removed from external affairs and do the arts instead. WTF? So that is vacant again.
He might do aviation as a side gig but he wants to replace all planes to helicopters. Not sure if that is fine as I like these old spitfires, DC3's and F104's
Jim H does thermoplastic research and the removal of obsolete jobs. You know,stuff we don't need or care about like marketing, lawyers, advertising, dispute tribunals and so on. We have the internet now and Bert so we don't need all that crap.
WillH- fabrication
Shit tiring stuff this political mumbo jumbo, when do this people actually do some real work?
EDIT:
Motoronin has kindly requested to be removed from external affairs and do the arts instead. WTF? So that is vacant again.
He might do aviation as a side gig but he wants to replace all planes to helicopters. Not sure if that is fine as I like these old spitfires, DC3's and F104's
Jim H does thermoplastic research and the removal of obsolete jobs. You know,stuff we don't need or care about like marketing, lawyers, advertising, dispute tribunals and so on. We have the internet now and Bert so we don't need all that crap.
WillH- fabrication
Shit tiring stuff this political mumbo jumbo, when do this people actually do some real work?
Linga
2014-03-14 14:31:00 UTC
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Bass, search, read, educate.
You are the worst kind of idiot. You choose stupidity.
Search and learn.
Gun/deaths/population. Easy mathematics on a calculator.
You don't need to change your opinion, but you do need to change your attitude.
Bass, search, read, educate.
You are the worst kind of idiot. You choose stupidity.
Search and learn.
Gun/deaths/population. Easy mathematics on a calculator.
You don't need to change your opinion, but you do need to change your attitude.
shadowman
2014-03-14 14:34:00 UTC
Hi Linga,
Did you get your stolen race bike back???
Certainly hope so
Did you get your stolen race bike back???
Certainly hope so
Linga
2014-03-14 14:57:00 UTC
Nah, not yet mate. Hoping still.
Pro twin Australia has been nice enough to build me a bike for the season to race. They are amazing!!
Pro twin Australia has been nice enough to build me a bike for the season to race. They are amazing!!
BassAgent
2014-03-14 16:42:00 UTC
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Linga
2014-03-14 16:55:00 UTC
Still no facts.... Are you Sattler or Waldoff?
This forum... The net...
This forum... The net...
Linga
2014-03-14 17:01:00 UTC
My point is only that you choose idiocy.
I can agree to disagree, as frustrating as it is, with someone who can justify their position. That is shown in the thread you chose not to read.
You, however, have the world's knowledge at your fingertips and choose ignorance.
This forum is great for weeding out and vetting morons. Hence why it is so good and we are so diverse.
You sir are a moron and need to be vetted.
I can agree to disagree, as frustrating as it is, with someone who can justify their position. That is shown in the thread you chose not to read.
You, however, have the world's knowledge at your fingertips and choose ignorance.
This forum is great for weeding out and vetting morons. Hence why it is so good and we are so diverse.
You sir are a moron and need to be vetted.
BassAgent
2014-03-14 17:02:00 UTC
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2014-03-14 17:03:00 UTC
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BassAgent
2014-03-14 17:08:00 UTC
Also, I am not assuming that you have done absolutely no worthwhile research on this matter, I am stating as fact that you haven't.
Pretty bold right? You are probably firing up at the fingertips getting ready to tell me how I can't possibly do that and assuming makes me an ass or something or whatever haha.
Yet, I can make such a claim because it's supported directly by your own position. It's as simple as the mere fact you believe that all there is to the topic is "gun deaths per capita of gun ownership".
I feel sorry for people who live day to day with such limited critical thinking skills.
Btw, calling somebody "stupid" over and over... you've obviously never done any research on "name calling in a debate" Lol. (inb4 "hey you called sdnerd a dumbass" I still stand by this, Hahaha)
Maybe you don't do any research for anything? It's possible...
Pretty bold right? You are probably firing up at the fingertips getting ready to tell me how I can't possibly do that and assuming makes me an ass or something or whatever haha.
Yet, I can make such a claim because it's supported directly by your own position. It's as simple as the mere fact you believe that all there is to the topic is "gun deaths per capita of gun ownership".
I feel sorry for people who live day to day with such limited critical thinking skills.
Btw, calling somebody "stupid" over and over... you've obviously never done any research on "name calling in a debate" Lol. (inb4 "hey you called sdnerd a dumbass" I still stand by this, Hahaha)
Maybe you don't do any research for anything? It's possible...
Linga
2014-03-14 17:15:00 UTC
Name calling is not a debate.
Since you are too lazy to read the previously mentioned thread which has quite a lot of research, what would you like me to research for you?
You also stated "points of research" Clarify.
I'm yet to be assured of your non moronic status... Ironic lol
Since you are too lazy to read the previously mentioned thread which has quite a lot of research, what would you like me to research for you?
You also stated "points of research" Clarify.
I'm yet to be assured of your non moronic status... Ironic lol
BassAgent
2014-03-14 17:30:00 UTC
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2014-03-14 17:47:00 UTC
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BassAgent
2014-03-14 19:42:00 UTC
It's a good time-passer lol
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2014-03-14 20:30:00 UTC
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BassAgent
2014-03-14 21:02:00 UTC
Funny thing here - this thread began with a query (if you can call it that ...) on an issue that had nothing to do with firearms. It also had nothing to do with the US either.
Some shit-stirrer decided to add some seasoning to the pot (you know who you are
Some shit-stirrer decided to add some seasoning to the pot (you know who you are
BassAgent
2014-03-14 21:07:00 UTC
Nerd gets it, almost. On the right track with thinking more critically at least. Though I can't exactly say that you aren't completely getting it since your point may be elsewhere than where I was going on topic.
Linga
2014-03-14 21:10:00 UTC
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2014-03-15 07:48:00 UTC
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ktmguy
2014-03-15 08:27:00 UTC
In answer to the original question and in line with what Linga has posted Australians only have themselves to blame for voting in conservative Liberal governments and that is why our rights are being eroded away.
Although the gun laws were introduced by a conservative Liberal government I personally did not have a issue with it. Although 99% of Australians have no practical use for guns anyone can own a firearm there are just restrictions on what type of gun and what your intentions are on its use.
I would not like to live in a environment where I found the need to own a gun to protect my family of myself.
(Yes I know Feathers is holding a gun )
Although the gun laws were introduced by a conservative Liberal government I personally did not have a issue with it. Although 99% of Australians have no practical use for guns anyone can own a firearm there are just restrictions on what type of gun and what your intentions are on its use.
I would not like to live in a environment where I found the need to own a gun to protect my family of myself.
(Yes I know Feathers is holding a gun )
AGRO!
2014-03-15 09:44:00 UTC
I want my justice minister to step in and clear this up, hardcore no pussyfooting!
DribbleDuke
2014-03-15 10:28:00 UTC
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Aphex
2014-03-15 12:14:00 UTC
Can someone post a link for BassAgent to the moderator controls and hopefully he accidentally bans himself?
BassAgent
2014-03-15 13:10:00 UTC
what Linga said.
Ignorance is bliss, it is no wonder Bass's posts are loaded with " LOL's"
If I were at a keyboard, I'd chime in and hit the fish with both barrels.
Australian people have grit enough that apathy will not take too deep ahold.
Guns and or that lack thereof seems to be a prevailing current around these parts.
I have heard the argument that if they were outlawed then only outlaws would have them.
This may be good since most guns only shoot the owner or close kin folk.
Trust me, I'll spew justice upon my return. But for now, Bass shutthefuckup!
Ignorance is bliss, it is no wonder Bass's posts are loaded with " LOL's"
If I were at a keyboard, I'd chime in and hit the fish with both barrels.
Australian people have grit enough that apathy will not take too deep ahold.
Guns and or that lack thereof seems to be a prevailing current around these parts.
I have heard the argument that if they were outlawed then only outlaws would have them.
This may be good since most guns only shoot the owner or close kin folk.
Trust me, I'll spew justice upon my return. But for now, Bass shutthefuckup!
lc4
2014-03-16 06:58:00 UTC
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Linga
2014-03-16 07:01:00 UTC
Still no facts idiot?
Not one?
Do you learn at school?
I'd love to see your assignments!
I reckon this!!! Because... Well you disapprove it!!! I said it...
You must be top of the class...
Not one?
Do you learn at school?
I'd love to see your assignments!
I reckon this!!! Because... Well you disapprove it!!! I said it...
You must be top of the class...
BassAgent
2014-03-16 07:14:00 UTC
You must not have went to school at all. In this case I can be related to being the teacher who is giving you the prompt to a research paper with key topics to discuss. I am not the one who needs to post facts or argue my case for I am already of sound knowledge on the topic at hand. It is up to the uninformed (you) to research the ideas given and fix your incorrect thinking. Good day sir! Lmao
Linga
2014-03-16 07:57:00 UTC
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2014-03-16 08:11:00 UTC
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BassAgent
2014-03-16 08:19:00 UTC
That video makes me cringe a little.
Funny as, when he calls the young fella out... Does sorta prove he's not always on the right side of the law though...
Funny as, when he calls the young fella out... Does sorta prove he's not always on the right side of the law though...
Linga
2014-03-16 16:00:00 UTC
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Linga
2014-03-16 16:21:00 UTC
Still no info...? Idiot
ktmguy
2014-03-16 16:25:00 UTC
If you realise you are an idiot and live in idiocy, it will be your first step out of idiom.
MrZ32
2014-03-17 08:31:00 UTC
Bassagent you disappoint me! I thought you learned your lesson and got more mature, but no.
Do you for get you are a mod? There are 3 types of people on forums. On a subject some have opinion red, some have opinion blue, the mods supposed to keep an eye on the discussions an call for reason if needed. You did no such thing, only putting fuel on the fire. I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just that it is not your job as a mod to tell other people what your opinion is in this aggressive way.
You stepped up to the plate when required, with this job comes responsibilities, act like a mod!
You should know better that on the subject of guns and gun ownership opinions are divided and tempers can flare, your job is to bring reason to this. If you can't quit!
Take an example from Klinck, he can bring his view to the table without upsetting people (I'm not talking about a laugh) and still keep things under control.
This is a bike forum not a political vent or gun control lobby.
Poor performance bud!
Do you for get you are a mod? There are 3 types of people on forums. On a subject some have opinion red, some have opinion blue, the mods supposed to keep an eye on the discussions an call for reason if needed. You did no such thing, only putting fuel on the fire. I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just that it is not your job as a mod to tell other people what your opinion is in this aggressive way.
You stepped up to the plate when required, with this job comes responsibilities, act like a mod!
You should know better that on the subject of guns and gun ownership opinions are divided and tempers can flare, your job is to bring reason to this. If you can't quit!
Take an example from Klinck, he can bring his view to the table without upsetting people (I'm not talking about a laugh) and still keep things under control.
This is a bike forum not a political vent or gun control lobby.
Poor performance bud!
BassAgent
2014-03-17 09:23:00 UTC
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Linga
2014-03-17 20:20:00 UTC
It was never my intention to get into a debate, I was just mentioning avenues of ideas that people should research before coming to narrow-sighted conclusions on the subject. Oh well though.
Btw ktmguy, just because I'm a mod doesn't mean I can't talk back and forth with other members how I would normally. I just can't let my mod power be abused in such situations; which I haven't done. Otherwise I can post shit back and forth like an ass all I want lol. Doesn't mean I'm mad or unruly. You gotta speak to certain people in their own context of speaking after all!
Honestly if people don't like me I really don't care. Unless we're meeting up in person; that's a different story. And people who know me in person know what's up with me anyways.
Btw ktmguy, just because I'm a mod doesn't mean I can't talk back and forth with other members how I would normally. I just can't let my mod power be abused in such situations; which I haven't done. Otherwise I can post shit back and forth like an ass all I want lol. Doesn't mean I'm mad or unruly. You gotta speak to certain people in their own context of speaking after all!
Honestly if people don't like me I really don't care. Unless we're meeting up in person; that's a different story. And people who know me in person know what's up with me anyways.
Aphex
2014-03-17 21:09:00 UTC
I would like to hear your views on the anti protest laws in Victoria Bass.
I would also like your point of view on the anti-bikie legislation in Queensland.
Feel free to pop a link or a fact in at any time.
Also... Aphex...? I love the use of cunt lol
I would also like your point of view on the anti-bikie legislation in Queensland.
Feel free to pop a link or a fact in at any time.
Also... Aphex...? I love the use of cunt lol
BassAgent
2014-03-17 21:17:00 UTC
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Linga
2014-03-17 21:54:00 UTC
Porn is like a 1-stop shop now. Just use xhamster.com or fantasti.cc lol
DribbleDuke
2014-03-17 22:06:00 UTC
It is despicable what they will go to.
The new government is going to sign to the TPP and that is basically secret corporate laws and internet security, with a good dose of Hollywood copy-writes thrown in.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/transpaci ... 32sf6.html
Whistleblowers, by their very nature, should be protected so as to hold the larger group to account. Using Snowden as a reason is preposterous.
The new government is going to sign to the TPP and that is basically secret corporate laws and internet security, with a good dose of Hollywood copy-writes thrown in.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/transpaci ... 32sf6.html
Whistleblowers, by their very nature, should be protected so as to hold the larger group to account. Using Snowden as a reason is preposterous.
Linga
2014-03-17 22:21:00 UTC
This is what a new world order is.
Julian and Edward will be heroes before this is over. But they will have to be heroes in another country.
Julian and Edward will be heroes before this is over. But they will have to be heroes in another country.
TLS_Russ
2014-03-18 06:38:00 UTC
ktmguy
2014-03-18 06:48:00 UTC
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AGRO!
2014-03-18 06:55:00 UTC
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Linga
2014-03-18 07:10:00 UTC
This has to be BS or have the police gone mad?
The best bit is that you can let the cops know where and when your going for a ride great idea
The best bit is that you can let the cops know where and when your going for a ride great idea
TLS_Russ
2014-03-18 07:30:00 UTC
It does say at the bottom that it may be satirical... May...
AGRO!
2014-03-18 07:34:00 UTC
Watching the video posted by lc4 shows this to be factual and being practiced by the police..........
How that guy kept his cool I really dont know.... persecution and intimidation to provoke a response as an excuse to arrest was clearly the police objective there.....
How that guy kept his cool I really dont know.... persecution and intimidation to provoke a response as an excuse to arrest was clearly the police objective there.....
Aphex
2014-03-18 07:39:00 UTC
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SDNerd
2014-03-18 16:03:00 UTC
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Colonel_Klinck
2014-03-18 17:20:00 UTC
The likes of Bradley Manning and Edward Snowdon are heros in my eyes. They sacrificed everything to show what our governments were up to. Whistle blowers of this kind should be heroes to the public not seen as traitors. I hope one day the people who vilify them see how wrong they were about them.
shadowman
2014-03-18 17:37:00 UTC
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Colonel_Klinck
2014-03-18 18:25:00 UTC
I actually wrote a fairly long reply to that dude but then got the message "session timed out" when i hit Submit Can't be arsed to type it out again. Lets just say we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
SDNerd
2014-03-18 19:09:00 UTC
That would be Ms. "Chelsea Elizabeth Manning" to you and me.
Linga
2014-03-18 22:32:00 UTC
Regardless of how the info was treated afterwards (I can't find a reputable source saying that anyone died as a direct result) the anti protest laws key into this directly. Governments and corporations must be completely transparent to stop unethical behaviour... They are all run by humans... And we are all a bit shit
shadowman
2014-03-18 23:34:00 UTC
My guess is that the unintended consequences of total transparency would leave you and any right thinking people breathlessly disappointed! Quiet people taking risks in the shadows and at the margins are every bit as vital to the maintenance of free speech and liberal democracy as any number of celebrity protestors and whistleblowers.
DribbleDuke
2014-03-19 00:14:00 UTC
Nice sales pitch. Especially if you make a living by its endorcement.
By the people, for the people, requires discloser, full discloser.
These fuckwits got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. And want to sell us idiots, that includes you Bass, on more " nTional Security". We've had enough of this paradigm. It's time foe evolvement by involvement.
By the people, for the people, requires discloser, full discloser.
These fuckwits got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. And want to sell us idiots, that includes you Bass, on more " nTional Security". We've had enough of this paradigm. It's time foe evolvement by involvement.
scamb66
2014-03-19 04:06:00 UTC
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BassAgent
2014-03-19 04:26:00 UTC
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Linga
2014-03-19 06:25:00 UTC
Strange group the Ol' 1%ers... I understand the love of a bike, but the love of that culture is odd to me.
One of my mates said he was not allowed to ride my bike because he'd get bashed if they found out, and he was a senior member!
Yet they raced a Jap bike at the Sand drags...? Like I said.... Odd
One of my mates said he was not allowed to ride my bike because he'd get bashed if they found out, and he was a senior member!
Yet they raced a Jap bike at the Sand drags...? Like I said.... Odd
Aphex
2014-03-19 14:46:00 UTC
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scamb66
2014-03-20 13:49:00 UTC
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Ruprecht
2014-03-27 07:13:00 UTC
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Ruprecht
2014-03-27 07:28:00 UTC
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ktmguy
2014-03-27 07:32:00 UTC
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Linga
2014-03-27 07:59:00 UTC
Just earlier this week, both sides of parliament chose to vote down a bill that would make lobbying and and their backers transparent... They are allowed to hide and we are not...