Katoom
2011-05-02 03:17:00 UTC
rocketchick
2011-05-02 03:19:00 UTC
DribbleDuke
2011-05-02 03:20:00 UTC
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cdlabate
2011-05-02 04:08:00 UTC
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, till my enemy is destroyed.
I amsure that America is busy at this moment creating more Bin Laden's as we sleep.
Good night all?
ktmguy
2011-05-02 04:17:00 UTC
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Colonel_Klinck
2011-05-02 04:45:00 UTC
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lc4
2011-05-02 04:52:00 UTC
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Bert
2011-05-02 06:32:00 UTC
What a farce!
AGRO!
2011-05-02 06:58:00 UTC
MrZ32
2011-05-02 07:25:00 UTC
OldTLSDoug
2011-05-02 07:31:00 UTC
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johnpav
2011-05-02 09:36:00 UTC
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lc4
2011-05-02 09:46:00 UTC
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shadowman
2011-05-02 10:08:00 UTC
I appreciate that in the UK and the EU proper we are not very popular. I for one, don't give a damn what folks think of us, we are our own country, and shouldn't bow to others opinions. I think we have done too much of that to this point. I also appreciate that we have not always done that which is popular to the general world population. But we are a free people, I hope that continues.
It is a victory for us to have him killed. It is sad that it took us so long and cost so much to get him.
Colonel_Klinck
2011-05-02 10:10:00 UTC
Ducati Pete
2011-05-02 10:51:00 UTC
Sound a lot like WMD ?
Colonel_Klinck
2011-05-02 11:21:00 UTC
Osama living with Elvis and running a chip shop in Peckham is just silly, especially when you consider that the US has been hiding him on the space station for years. Notwithstanding this expect to learn that he has in fact been dead for years, was working for the west / Saudi regime, was on the Israel payroll, is still alive and being de briefed and on and on and on. Even in this bastion of sanity I already see some of this being reflected, people love a good story.
In so far as the public loss of a figurehead for a hateful and cruel philosophy is concerned good riddance to bad rubbish. Trust me, there are still quite a few people out there who have spent too long laying quietly on rocky hillsides staring through telescopic sights waiting patiently for an opportunity to tidy up some rubbish. Their trade is unlikely to change much but ‘one day this war will end’ and time will tell if we are more than a single day closer to that time as a result. Lets all hope so.
A single head shot showed him a lot more mercy than he showed to his many many victims. Sniper school is a bitch, Say goodnight Gracy
preey
2011-05-02 11:48:00 UTC
jambox
2011-05-02 12:39:00 UTC
I'm not suprised where they found him either, I expect US - Pakistan relations to be a bit strained for a while. (As if they weren't already.)
Nevermind though, we always had a relationship with our stateside brothers, even when NORAID were busy raising funding for PIRA in the States, hell, they even invited Jerry Adams over! Of course after 9/11 terrorists became a lot less fashionable over there.
DribbleDuke
2011-05-02 15:47:00 UTC
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Ducati Pete
2011-05-02 19:18:00 UTC
The whole of europe pretty much stood by and watched genocide take place in the former Yugoslavia.
It wasn't untill America got involved, under their NATO giuse that anything meaningful was done to stop that.
Clinton was very hesitant to do it, but with a lot of persuation from Blair (and at the time Clinton owed Tony a favour) he did the right thing.
The whole thing was shameful for the E.U and a very good reason why a collective foriegn policy for the EU would be a disaster.
I can't remember who said this, but I've always liked it as a quote. "America usually does the right thing, after it has explored every other possibility."
Stupid Luke
2011-05-02 19:33:00 UTC
I do have an issue with the recent attempt to assassinate Gadaffi and the murder of his son and grandchildren. How can that ever be justice? We have no remit to intervene in Libya at all, far less trying to kill the political leader. I can just imagine how you americans would whine if another country fired a rocket at Obama's relatives...wherever they are in Kenya.
DribbleDuke
2011-05-02 19:39:00 UTC
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Willh
2011-05-02 22:14:00 UTC
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MADDOG53
2011-05-02 23:45:00 UTC
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Stupid Luke
2011-05-03 00:17:00 UTC
OldTLSDoug
2011-05-03 00:31:00 UTC
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roamer
2011-05-03 01:12:00 UTC
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
George Orwell
I am thankful for all the Rough Men, and Women, who so willingly lay everything they have on the line daily so that I may sit and sip coffee quietly and watch the sunrise.
God Bless the American Fighting Men and Women.
thewall67
2011-05-03 01:59:00 UTC
Do you really think we target grandchildren? Wake the fook up, Gadaffi had them there, knew he was a target, it's all on his shoulders.
I almost lost a dear friend from childhood on that flight the Libyans blew up. She came home a day early. She was lucky, but all her friends from school died. I hope the next time they attack they get the whole family.
Like it was said earlier, rats breed like crazy. Smoke the whole family tree, just to be sure.
And the title of the thread is "Bin Laden Dead!!", Not "whats your panty waist opinion of whats the U.S. doing now that gets my shit in a wad"..
thewall67
2011-05-03 02:04:00 UTC
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DribbleDuke
2011-05-03 02:19:00 UTC
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thewall67
2011-05-03 02:22:00 UTC
DribbleDuke
2011-05-03 02:29:00 UTC
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Grendel
2011-05-03 02:46:00 UTC
Rejoice at the title of this thread and be willing to try something new else we will be here for ever and that my friends is where the sad commentary lies
2bigalow
2011-05-03 02:49:00 UTC
AGRO!
2011-05-03 04:14:00 UTC
Freedom is contagious. Look at all the unrest in the middle east. PEOPLE risking THEIR lives, to stand up THEIR government, to express THEIR ideas, and not live by some else ideas. Freedom IS contagious.
And to all the conspiracy theorists. Do you really think you know what our, or any government is up to? Seems to me, a lot of those who opposed our governments way of doing things in the past are now in power (Hint - Hilary and our current leader) seem to be a ALOT more humble and conservative on how they handle world problems. Do think maybe, just maybe, they now see the information presented to them from people in the know.
Obama went into Office with all the grand ideas of transparency, closing Gitmo, ect... Hummm seems he no longer preaches that. Maybe he is in the know now?
Being a world leader might be better summed up as "walk a mile in my shoes"
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MrZ32
2011-05-03 07:20:00 UTC
I just dont believe this crap there are to many reasons for this to be false and why oh why would the USA take his body out to sea and get this give him a proper Muslim funeral? This dude had no respect for the USA so why would US respect this dude with a Muslim funeral. Me I would have burnt that turd and Im not American.
Colonel_Klinck
2011-05-03 07:56:00 UTC
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lobster
2011-05-03 08:06:00 UTC
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AGRO!
2011-05-03 08:14:00 UTC
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AGRO!
2011-05-03 08:45:00 UTC
lobster
2011-05-03 08:49:00 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIFKpELZ ... re=related
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2011-05-03 11:21:00 UTC
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jambox
2011-05-03 17:09:00 UTC
http://gothamist.com/2011/05/02/about_t ... n_of_b.php[/quote]
I frigging love those taiwanese animations. Pure class lol
cdlabate
2011-05-03 19:03:00 UTC
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2011-05-03 20:18:00 UTC
motoronin
2011-05-03 20:20:00 UTC
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motoronin
2011-05-03 20:22:00 UTC
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rocketchick
2011-05-04 02:53:00 UTC
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2011-05-04 02:57:00 UTC
thewall67
2011-05-04 03:25:00 UTC
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2011-05-04 03:35:00 UTC
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thewall67
2011-05-04 03:40:00 UTC
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Colonel_Klinck
2011-05-04 06:23:00 UTC
AGRO!
2011-05-04 06:24:00 UTC
I don't see it like we are different countries but we are all one.
PS that includes England
motoronin
2011-05-04 10:18:00 UTC
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Ducati Pete
2011-05-04 12:33:00 UTC
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Stupid Luke
2011-05-04 14:43:00 UTC
thewall67
2011-05-04 14:50:00 UTC
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OldTLSDoug
2011-05-04 22:24:00 UTC
" It was very important for them to get their story straight, and they didn't. According to reports, they've known about Bin Laden's likely location since August last year, and have been rehearsing the assault on his house since April this year. That's plenty of time to decide what you're going to say. It seems to me that it's important for us to be able to portray our actions as being motivated by the desire for justice, and draw a contrast between ourselves and our opponents. Hence the initial reports of Bin Laden being killed in an exchange of fire, and of him using a woman as a human shield. The message here is: we were attempting to bring him to justice, and he refused to be brought, and furthermore hid behind a woman, the act of a coward.
When the revised details emerged, the message changes; it now says: we killed an unarmed man, and shot and wounded an unarmed woman in so doing. Pragmatically, nothing changes, except in our post-modern world, the message may be more important than the event. It's all about what it signifies, not what actually happened. So to mix up your messages like this, is actually a bit of a fuck-up.
I think it's too early to tell what the ramifications of his death are. For sure it won't stop terrorism in the name of Islam, and it won't matter at all to the Taliban in Afghanistan. It's questionable even how much effect it'll have on Al Queda. Neither does it raise any interesting questions about Pakistan; they've always been dubious allies.
The point about September 11 was to strike at the Americans at home, and draw them into conflict, thereby raising the stakes for everyone. In this, Bin Laden succeeded beyond his wildest dreams -- Afghanistan, Iraq, then Afghanistan again. Even better, from his point of view, we ended up fighting the remnants of the Iraqi army and sectarian groups in Iraq, and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Whatever you think about the morality of Bin Laden's actions, as a general with few soldiers he achieved a great deal. Now he's been made a martyr by being killed by the Americans. I doubt he would be unhappy about this.
It seems to me that, for a lot of the time, we obligingly fought his war, on his terms. We've expended vast amounts of blood and treasure starting conflicts that we can't win --or at least come out of looking like the winner. Bin Laden saw Afghanistan as the Soviet Unions's nemesis, linking the cost of their adventures their with the eventual fall of the Soviet state; that was his model. While it's not the case that our conflicts will lead to the fall of the US or of Europe, it does show others of a similar mind to Bin Laden that we can be provoked into ill-advised response, and this will have been an object lesson to them.
So, yes he was a bad man, and yes, the world will be a slightly better place without him. Personally, I don't have any problem with the way the Americans killed him, as it seems they avoided unnecessary bloodshed -- they could, as fredie points out, simply have bombed his house. But I think it would be wrong to pretend that his death is any more than --at best-- meaningless, and at worst a symbol that others can rally to."
shadowman
2011-05-05 02:21:00 UTC
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Stupid Luke
2011-05-05 10:26:00 UTC
Just for the record, as some seem to be less enamored with the US than me, I was indeed speaking to the fact that it was a US raid that killed the fooker and did not intend to offend other involved countries.
But, for the record, I am an American, I served my country, and I don't really have a horse in the race of caring what folks think of me or my country. I do, however, enjoy the exchange of ideas. And of course, I have a Super Duke, and an RC8R Akrapovic, and I am riding the RC8R to work, so you can eat me, sir.
Respectfully,
Doug "dipshit" Basinger
Granbury, TX. USA
cdlabate
2011-05-05 10:57:00 UTC
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oafboy182
2011-05-05 20:01:00 UTC
The trouble is that the role is likely to appeal to few people as there is an very high chance that the US will come back to finish the job.
So the Taliban need to find someone with no interest in world affairs, no understanding of the contra side of too much tv exposure and a willingness to risk all for their 15 minutes of fame. If they are a halfwit it is a positive bonus too but Jordan and Jedward have prior commitments. What do you do?
The could look in the Big Brother house or interview the aspirants for The Apprentice but perhaps a specialist is called for? Bring in Simon Cowell or as he would now like to be known Sheik Bin Cowell. That fooker will do anything for money and minge so if they promise him an oil well and 70 virgins he is aboard.
Look out for the new shows on Arab network, Camp X Ray factor and Pop Alqaeda. Cant sing? Cant dance? No worries lets see how you look in this turban and false beard.
lc4
2011-05-05 22:39:00 UTC
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