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David's Story: Road Safety Campaign video

81forest

81forest

2014-09-08 02:53:00 UTC

I think this is worth a watch, in the hope of learning something that you can use, but maybe not for everybody. On board video footage of a fatality, released by the rider's parents in the hope of preventing collisions on the road.

Did he make a mistake, besides the speed? I wonder if the driver didn't see him at all, or just totally misjudged the rate of approach.

AGRO!

AGRO!

2014-09-08 03:09:00 UTC

I saw this on another forum and was thinking of posting it on here but for some reason I felt bad about doing it and changed my mind but its unreal how many comments blamed the rider.
OK he was speeding but that dum ass in the car did the wrong thing too.
Same old story didn't see the bike officer I call this BS they saw him as the driver was trying to beat him by turning into the street earlyer you can see the driver turning in before the lane ends.

BassAgent

BassAgent

2014-09-08 03:14:00 UTC

The way I see it: Rider was NOT riding DEFENSIVELY.

Car Driver: Completely at fault.

81forest

81forest

2014-09-08 03:29:00 UTC

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AGRO!

AGRO!

2014-09-08 03:32:00 UTC

Hey Bass I agree with you mate the rider wasn't thinking like who doesn't slow down at a intersection plus it seems to me that some riders do dumb crap when they ride with a camera on board.
But I put most of the blame on the driver of the car.

AGRO!

AGRO!

2014-09-08 03:38:00 UTC

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jambox

jambox

2014-09-08 06:47:00 UTC

Its been on the news and all over facebook over here. The driver of the car told the police that they never saw the bike, or the car behind the bike (ie. the one the biker had just over taken).

Due to the above, the driver was more in the wrong. But as BA stated, the rider wasn't riding defensively and a junction. Unfortunately all the cagers over here are just emphasising the fact that he was speeding, as we know, all bikers do, and not focusing on the driver not paying attention.

It's something the driver now has to live with for failing to check, also the biker paid the ultimate price for not being defensive in his riding.

Stratkat

Stratkat

2014-09-08 09:25:00 UTC

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fatbob

fatbob

2014-09-08 13:29:00 UTC

Man thats hard to watch. brought back a lot of memories, i was much more fortunate but i know the terror of realizing, im not walking away from this one.
just being honest here, but its clips like this that make me wonder sometimes why ive been doing this for 30+ years. the older i get i see myself stopping at some point... maybe?

81forest

81forest

2014-09-08 14:51:00 UTC

whilst the driver should have looked , I still feel the biker has to take his share as his speed is a factor for the outcome
On a few occasions I have approached junctions that have not seen me as I wasn't feckin there a second ago , im sure we have all done it sometime.
I know ive done it in a car as well.
Never been more than a sharp stop though.

anyhow RIP to that particular gent for doing something I do probably more frequently then I admit.

BassAgent

BassAgent

2014-09-08 16:50:00 UTC

For me the two take home points were:

1. Being in an accident caused by the other person doesn't bring you back to life.

2. All humans have brain farts which, in some cases, can kill you or someone else.
This rider had one in that he either ignored the Warning Will Robinson! moment that would have sounded when he saw that he was coming up on an intersection at speed with a car moving very slowly in the oncoming lane OR simply wasn't paying attention.

The problem is that being human we can only reduce the number of brain farts we have. We can't eliminate them. This guy probably would still be alive had he not been bombing down the road having the time of his life. The same could happen to any who do the same thing.

Which leaves many of us with the dilemma of do I give up having high speed fun on the street or continue knowing that there is real risk.

81forest

81forest

2014-09-08 17:55:00 UTC

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DribbleDuke

DribbleDuke

2014-09-08 21:17:00 UTC

The hardest thing a lot of riders have to deal/come to terms with is that riding defensively/safely = not as much fun.

Like you guys said, it may not be the rider's fault, but at the end of the day you still end up hurt/dead. Is it worth it?

I can't preach though, as SDNerd would have probably already guessed, I don't always ride safely.

SDNerd

SDNerd

2014-09-08 21:23:00 UTC

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81forest

81forest

2014-09-08 22:19:00 UTC

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cdlabate

cdlabate

2014-09-08 23:21:00 UTC

I'm not watching but I can tell you it is the riders fault.

DribbleDuke

DribbleDuke

2014-09-08 23:52:00 UTC

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dirty irving

dirty irving

2014-09-09 00:14:00 UTC

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jambox

jambox

2014-09-09 00:29:00 UTC

Riders fault. Looks like he was a good kid...

...Good kids pull stupid shit on their motorcycles. His moment of bad judgment could have not come at a worse time.

SDNerd

SDNerd

2014-09-09 01:42:00 UTC

The more I take into consideration my own actions on a motorcycle the less actions I leave others responsible of, or is that responsible for. I will not be taken out while riding a motorcycle by someone turning left in front of me at an intersection and I will not turn left in front of another to cause them to modify behavior already presented by them. Call it a code of the road. While I will break many other codes along a way the cause for the number one motorcycle mess can at least stay number one in my code book.