bic_bicknell
2014-03-15 09:16:00 UTC
I really need an aluminium tank and lose the tank fairings, a low down, side exiting exhaust, a smaller single seat and rear light design and a single round headlight.
Stupid Luke
2014-03-15 09:57:00 UTC
bic_bicknell
2014-03-15 11:28:00 UTC
Willh
2014-03-15 12:54:00 UTC
SDNerd
2014-03-15 16:20:00 UTC
As stated elsewhere, I'd have plunked down for a Commando by now (assuming they were available in the US), if reports on the product weren't so depressing.
On the matter of 80 HP - plenty adequate for such a machine IMO. Makes gobs of mid-range torque, and that bike is certainly track-worthy. In the right hands, it would be a suitable weapon to shame many a SS rider.
While not quite as appealing, this is growing on me (in the same way I like Guzzis with more sporting intentions for what they are):
Proportions aren't quite right - like the tank is too large, tail cowl too small (relatively speaking), and not enough open space around the engine - ? That airbox is ridiculous appearing (no doubt driven by some Euro/EPA mandates) - and would have to go. Well, I'm no industrial designer ... Again, just doesn't seem quite right ...
81forest
2014-03-15 18:26:00 UTC
cdlabate
2014-03-16 08:56:00 UTC
MrK
2014-03-16 15:09:00 UTC
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cdlabate
2014-03-16 18:51:00 UTC
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bic_bicknell
2014-03-16 18:54:00 UTC
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Willh
2014-03-16 19:26:00 UTC
bic_bicknell
2014-03-16 20:09:00 UTC
Willh
2014-03-17 20:54:00 UTC
AGRO!
2014-03-17 21:14:00 UTC
What is that behind the rad and I front of the coolant reservoir ?
TLS_Russ
2014-03-18 02:37:00 UTC
bic_bicknell
2014-03-18 02:45:00 UTC
It really cleaned up the sheetmetal material of the radiator.
ktmguy
2014-03-18 05:41:00 UTC
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Willh
2014-03-18 05:54:00 UTC
bic_bicknell
2014-03-18 06:48:00 UTC
Anyway, you have to call a spade a spade, I still want an SD, just with some homage to old style cafe racers. If I wanted genuineness I'd just build a BSA gold star replica. At this stage, (fantasy stage), I was thinking about getting the oil tank chromed, but the idea of making a new one out of aluminium and fitting it back where they used to be is a really nice idea. Don't know about the mechanics of this, would there be any issues with running long tubes back to a remote tank, is it simply a header tank with a fill cap?
That thing behind the radiator is a Stebel horn. It's the only place I could find to mount it hidden. The compressor part is down next to the battery with hoses running up to the horn.
stalker
2014-03-18 06:54:00 UTC
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Ducati Pete
2014-03-18 10:26:00 UTC
stalker
2014-03-18 10:54:00 UTC
I had a look this morning. If the oil tank goes to the rear it would make the whole front end cleaner and let you see the front cylinder so it will at least look like a V twin as it should! There's little other crap under the radiator. I think that I would also relocate the water header bottle and make that in aluninium while I'm at it.
Oil tank relocation would have to come with exhaust relocation. The space left with the high level exhaust gone would mean there was enough room for an asymmetrical design that partly sat next the the opera half of the rear shock and came through the frame to sit above the rear cylinder.
Or, I was thinking that you could design a singe seat unit where the fairing section behind the seat was the oil tank itself. But you'd be carrying all at weight high up and not in the best position, (although maybe lighter than the high level silencers so maybe OK).
bic_bicknell
2014-03-18 17:51:00 UTC
SDNerd
2014-03-18 17:58:00 UTC
I like projects my self, and I am having a heck of a time with thinking about my next bike.
The SD is a hard act to follow.
Before I got my SD, I was eye balling a Guzzi to café out.
We all know (or should know) it will NEVER be as good as the SD, no matter how much money you throw at it.
Colonel_Klinck
2014-03-18 20:53:00 UTC
I like it. shows off the engine to be a V Twin better.
Willh
2014-03-18 22:12:00 UTC
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Willh
2014-03-18 22:32:00 UTC
AGRO!
2014-03-18 23:42:00 UTC
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Willh
2014-03-18 23:48:00 UTC
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MrZ32
2014-03-19 03:50:00 UTC
ktmguy
2014-03-20 22:34:00 UTC
The black one is what they should have built.
Something smaller than this rad treatment would clean up the radiator.
This
As far as oil tank placement goes really isn't bad and would show off the V twin, leave under the seat for small 12cell...
MrZ32
2014-03-21 14:10:00 UTC
bic_bicknell
2014-03-21 14:19:00 UTC
This bike was in Portland over the winter, but I got snowed in and could not make the meet.
It was a heart throb when I saw it in some photos of the meet. I knew it was special, and it is.
This flat tracker is the most appealing bike as of late in my mind.
To top this, add the electric super charger to cut the lag time before the turbo kicks in.... or not......
AGRO!
2014-03-21 14:25:00 UTC
MrZ32
2014-03-22 13:23:00 UTC
It is the first bike since my current sd (which I will be keeping) to excite and blow me away to the need of purchase.
Can't wait
MrZ32
2014-03-22 14:19:00 UTC
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MrZ32
2014-03-22 19:07:00 UTC
cdlabate
2014-03-22 23:32:00 UTC
Hard to get a balance between the modern facetted/stealth KTM aesthetics and an old school cafe racer look. Aluminium finish on the tank will help considerably. That's my next step -alomg with a more facceted seat unit. And I want to design a really classic KTM tank badge in the style of the BSA badges.
bic_bicknell
2014-03-22 23:43:00 UTC
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Willh
2014-03-23 01:49:00 UTC
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stalker
2014-03-27 09:59:00 UTC
No. 47
2014-03-27 10:20:00 UTC
Should have kept it but then I also turned down a Black Shadow for £3,000 around that time...................................
bic_bicknell
2014-03-27 19:15:00 UTC
Front fender need to get smaller now to balance with rear/ smaller tyre.
Before I saw what you did to the tail section...which looks cool..I was thinking the stock R solo seat has some mighty fine lines.......just sayin'
Lookin' good M8
bic_bicknell
2014-03-27 19:30:00 UTC
One time my bud, who I bought the bike from was watching me trying to start it.
It kicked back and sent my knee into the handle bars.
Willh
2014-03-28 19:08:00 UTC
https://www.facebook.com/BikeShedMotorc ... nt_count=1
Willh
2014-03-28 19:55:00 UTC
Willh
2014-03-31 16:08:00 UTC
Option 1.
Replace the high level exhausts with a low system, either one silencer or twin exit both sides. With the room created under the seat/subframe fit a replacement for the existing oil tank and open up the clutter round the front of the engine. (as illustrated in my concept). I know the tank will be smaller than current but it will be OK, maybe just require more frequent oil changes.
Option 2.
Completely remove the existing subframe and fabricate a monocoque oil tank that supports the seat unit and incorporates all the under-tray stuff to house the battery and stuff.
Option 3.
All of the above but also get rid of the mono-shock rear spring and remodel the swing arm to take a twin shock arrangement that bolts onto the monocoque oil-tank/subframe.
This option is primarily about aesthetics but I would not want to compromise too much on handling and suspension performance over current set up. Not sure how easy it is to slap on a twin shock and get similar results. Any feedback here greatly appreciated. (I'd be willing to get a pair of really good shocks for it and wouldn't be looking for track day performance, just not a crap one.)
We are assuming here that the oil tank design is well enough designed and fabricated to deal with the suspension forces going through it.
bic_bicknell
2014-03-31 20:49:00 UTC
Option 2. Overly complicated and more likely to fail, changes that may be required/ wished for farther down the road may require scrapping the entire subframe. It's nice to be able to remove an oiltank for cleaning. Oil in frame, subframe not so much fun.
Option 3.
This would also allow shortening the wheelbase if that was desired.
I still think the stock sm position for the oiltank is a good solution. Could be done nicer with a custom tank ...
Willh
2014-03-31 22:42:00 UTC
lawman
2014-03-31 23:02:00 UTC
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Stupid Luke
2014-05-10 12:47:00 UTC
More here
http://www.caferacerculture.net/2014/05/metal-slug.html
bic_bicknell
2014-05-10 15:53:00 UTC
Italian guy selling the Norton Domiracer contract is still in contact but I'm no longer interested because he cannot transfer the contract direct to me so I would have to let him buy it and then have it transferred to me but Norton won't honour any commitments to me and for 26K I think that's not on.
Anyway the hunt for a good H2 is still underway, went to see an H2c today which was cheap but tatty and a lot of not standard parts. It had modern Higgspeed expansion chambers which sounded absolutely awesome! Wow! I can't wait to own one of these bikes again. Want to run it on Castrol R for the smell too.
shadowman
2014-05-10 20:26:00 UTC
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bic_bicknell
2014-05-11 07:54:00 UTC
Ive seen this done with battery compartments.
81forest
2014-05-13 16:10:00 UTC
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 9530_n.jpg
Obviously I think it is a horrible waste of an RC8 but I know you old folk like this nonsense.
Willh
2014-05-15 16:57:00 UTC
It's a beaut. Really clean, US model H2c imported a few years ago. Not over the top show spec, neither any rust or anything to repair. All original spec, nothing missing. Just an honest, good road going example. For a lot less than the going price. Well chuffed.
DribbleDuke
2014-05-15 18:55:00 UTC
Chasing dreams is often better than actually catching them up!! Still if it came at a good price you can always quietly reverse out at a later date
Enjoy.
Willh
2014-05-15 19:00:00 UTC
I will have to wait less than the guys waiting for a 1290! Ha ha. And I think that combined with the 990 I will ultimately have more fun. Anyways, made my choice and I will live with the result.
DribbleDuke
2014-05-15 19:39:00 UTC
Willh
2014-05-15 21:13:00 UTC
We'll need some video when you get it.
Edit
Is it missing a front disk?
bic_bicknell
2014-05-18 06:13:00 UTC
bic_bicknell
2014-05-19 22:47:00 UTC
bic_bicknell
2014-05-20 02:15:00 UTC
shadowman
2014-05-20 02:43:00 UTC
.just up date it as much as possible to make it good and safe.
Rode with the Vintage guys Saturday with my SuperDuke, to help herd stray cats and help to keep them running when possible.
Starting to feel like I need and old crock to tag along to do it right. Getting along with the guy who puts the ride on. He works on bikes too. I stopped to help a Honda 350 that stalled and the kid could not start it. Could not find neutral. Kick start. The owner was fumbling with it. and I asked if he need help, sort of. I grabbed the shifter with my fingers to find neutral and the linkage was all sloppy. I found it and he started kicking, but no fire. I pushed him down a small grade, not one pop. I pointed over to the chase truck / trailer and said there ya go. I get back to the main pack at a store break and talk to the lead rider and tell him about the rat trap bike that would not start. As crap was coming out of my mouth, I see the lead rider start to tense up and I realise that is one of his customers...Duffff...........
He just spent a lot of time on it but the kid owner does not know which end of a screw driver to use. I apologize as much as I could and things calm down. I tease the lead rider at another drink break and point to the bike on the trailer that just arrived by saying "Your steady income just showed up." He returned a slam to me yesterday after I told him I finally joined the club. He said "It only took you 30 years". I think I am going to like hanging with these guys.
bic_bicknell
2014-05-20 02:45:00 UTC
shadowman
2014-05-20 05:08:00 UTC
Well, I registered with the two main UK Triples clubs/forum a few days ago and posted up a, "Hello from Newbie". One of them still hasn't activated my account despite being payed a years subscription, which isn't a great start, but the other seems to be better sorted out and I've already had a few replies and advice about the questions I asked. It so reminds me of when someone new comes on here and everything they want to know has been asked and answered a thousand times but you just need a bit of guidance as to where to look rather than have the piss taken out of you.
It's given me something else to do and I have to admit, it's exciting thinking about another bike other than the SD. There's just not much going on here any more with the 990, all the threads have gradually turned to the 1290 and so it's not that interesting to me really. I think it will be more when 1290 owners start to really pull their bikes apart and start to work out all the mods and overcome the problems themselves to create better bikes. So far it's all about bolting on factory bling and sending bikes back with warranty issues.
I spent three hours reading through H2 service manuals and maintenance advice. It's all on line now but I also got a used Haines manual for big triples and an original owners handbook from Ebay. I feel right at home with these '70 bikes, it's so GOOOD to have to dig out my feeler gauges, strobe light, spark plug files and gap setter. I can just about understand how to strip this H2 down to it's constituent parts in my head. It's one of the first bikes to have electronic ignition so there's no points but that's about the only sealed box on this bike.
There's so much chrome and alloy to polish and clean. These Seventies bikes were very bright, brash and pimp looking.
I'm glad that I'm staying with the 990 as my main bike, it's still got it and I just couldn't find anything else modern that I wanted more. But adding another bike that doesn't compete and offers something totally different is a great challenge that I'm looking forward to.
AGRO!
2014-05-20 05:14:00 UTC
The Italian guy with the Norton Domiracer is still e mailing me asking if there is a way for it to work. I've said no.