Ducati Pete
2011-11-19 13:38:00 UTC
I'm pretty sure the assembled crowd are from Brazilian JuJitsu.
The weigh in for strikeforce challengers, girls feature at 8 min 40. Julia Budd - champion kick boxer looks like a beast!
The fight last night. First 5 seconds are missing, Julia lands some punches as Ronda advances to the clinch.
The strange looking dude in pink at the end is "Judo" Gene Labell - you may have seen him in films.
Viking
2011-11-19 14:51:00 UTC
Can never find Strikeforce showing on Sky. Loosing interest in the majority of the UFC stuff, same ole overhyped fights and 2nd rate UK events when they come over.
Love seeing footage of the training camps etc. I've do a kinda hybrid bastardised Crossfit'y type training so it's always good to pick up technique's from their vids.
Stupid Luke
2011-11-19 18:38:00 UTC
It would be easy to argue he set American judo back a lot of years which I suspect is why the US could field very few Judoka ( I can only think of Michael Swain) at Olympic and World level when I was involved. Most of the top level Japanese coaches werent interested in teaching in the US as they felt the sport was trivialised by such antics.
He may have some huge number of dans in US judo now but most are probably self awarded or came from mergers of clubs and associations. Basically if you hang around the sport long enough you get awarded grades. Brian Jacks is the only guy I am aware of that fought for a 5th Dan, certainly he was the only non Japanese.
I guess he gets a lot of his status from Brazilian Ju Jitsu which is a bastardisation of Japanese Ju Jitsu with added nasty stuff, and like any bastard is desperately seeking any forebear. So in the US at least the black sheep sport has found the black sheep predecessor.
ShadeTheChangingMan
2011-11-20 03:57:00 UTC
Stupid Luke
2011-11-20 09:04:00 UTC
I dont mean to demean her fighting skills....awesome as they appear to be.....but she really is one hell of a woman!! Dangerous and hot. LOVELY!
ShadeTheChangingMan
2011-11-23 02:18:00 UTC
drswade
2011-11-23 07:41:00 UTC
Quite suprised to see Te Garuma banned as tori retains a lot of control of uke in that one. I guess the danger is that it may become a piledriver and land uke on his head at the halfway stage. It is still my favorite technique for fighting with my kids though, they have grown up watching the world turn upside down when they wont go to bed
Back in 84 I trained a fair bit with Kashiwazaki who was 81 (i think) world champion. If he were still fighting today that video would have robbed him of 80% of his throwing techniques. I reckon he would still have got by on the other 20% and the ne waza though.
Stupid Luke
2011-11-23 09:19:00 UTC
And yes Luke...the opportunity for a Piledriver was noticed
Ducati Pete
2011-11-23 15:36:00 UTC
Ducati Pete
2011-11-23 18:38:00 UTC
Even when you are the one with the armlock on it is a pretty unpleasant way to break someones arm as you really feel it give. Not a great feeling, or an enjoyable way to win but nothing else you can do if they dont tap out. Despite that it was a favorite of Neil Adams.
Ducati Pete
2011-11-23 19:06:00 UTC
When I returned to Judo at the start of the year it took a few sessions to get away from the single / double leg attacks, sometimes it just seemed natural.
There is still a Kneeling wheel attack around. I help one of our youngsters with it before being Uke for his blue belt grading.
There's still plenty of stuff to get hurt by left in though!
Ducati Pete
2011-11-23 19:13:00 UTC
Another big change in modern Judo is the time allowed for newaza (groundwork). Now in competition if you haven't got a hold or submission in 5 or 10 seconds the fight is stopped and stood up.
This is why Ronda -who was a submission specialist - has such fast transitions. BJJ is much more methodical in approach, control, move to mount, look for submission. Ronda is from such a high level of Judo she is one step ahead.
She has also figured out that if she throws punches from mount her opponent will give her a arm while protecting themselves.
That said, I love watching the Diaz brothers work from their backs. They are both top notch BJJ guys and their submission attempts are seemless.
ShadeTheChangingMan
2011-11-23 19:15:00 UTC
I will try and put links up for interesting matches in the womens division if I know someone has interest.
Ducati Pete
2011-11-23 19:18:00 UTC
Post missing.
Stupid Luke
2011-11-23 19:47:00 UTC
Its the ref's fault imo....it should have been spotted as a tap cos t was teh only arm she could have used so SHOULD have been watched!!
Ducati Pete
2011-11-23 20:04:00 UTC
drswade
2011-11-23 20:30:00 UTC
Post missing.
drswade
2011-11-23 20:40:00 UTC
My Gi is like a wet rag.