levert
2011-09-28 14:13:00 UTC
I'm at an impasse.
The stock bike works really well, even with its glitchy touchy FI. After reading a lot of posts Im wondering if putting pipes on and fruckering around with the flies , mapping etc is worth the effort.
I'm probably a minority here, the bike has great power, enough for me, I just want to smooth out the FI.
AND
If every other manufacturer can do FI right ,KTM.... whats up????
After owning 29 bikes Id have to say this SD always makes me smile.
samba
2011-09-28 14:24:00 UTC
levert
2011-09-28 14:46:00 UTC
As far as noise, something a bit deeper but I live in the city so I cant have it to loud.
Mr_Trecolareco
2011-09-28 14:57:00 UTC
I bought a 2nd hand SD990 05 in 2009 and was smacked by the handling ( suspensions, brakes, weight distribuition ) and more than enough power.
Found some good business and bought a lot of bling ( carbons and anodised parts ).
But now have just bought a set of round akras and I'm very happy for the following reasons:
- better looks
- less heat for pillion
- less weight
- better performance
Got a tunecu cable and I'm looking for an air filter/box to upgrade and going to get it remaped by a pro.
Not looking for mega horses, just a good clean combustion and smooth riding.
I'm sure the €/pleasure ratio can't be rational but for me bikes is about feeling and emotions, not bank account LOL (more bling, more performance etc )
Crotchrockety
2011-09-28 15:24:00 UTC
It lost a little down low grunt, but gained top end (seat of the pants dyno only) and the power delivery smoothed out tremendously. My bike is presently at Bazzaz Performance to get a FI module. The FI module will likely resurrect the low end power because I think the bike is running too rich.
I hated the stock cans. They got hotter than hell and weighed 44 lbs. 44 freaking pounds!!! When I got rid of them, I wasn't looking for more sound. In fact, I run my LVs with the baffles in.
If your bike makes you happy, leave it alone. But, if there is that niggling feel that it could be better, there are alternatives to the full engine mods.
levert
2011-09-28 15:31:00 UTC
before I switch, IE to slip ons and a motobox id have an appropriate map ready.
I dont want to do a rash of changes to solve a fueling issue and end up with other fueling issues.
There are a few here who solve a problem to trade it for another.
KTM666
2011-09-28 16:21:00 UTC
SDNerd
2011-09-28 17:50:00 UTC
Yeah, the stock can gets hot. Never really felt its effects frankly.
As for noise and weight: I went with the Akra EVO slip ons (Ti w/CF end cones) and did the remap myself, applying the KTM map for these cans. All else is stock. The Akras are an improvement in virtually every way. Snatchiness is certainly reduced. Not perfect, but acceptable (and manageable). These have the removable baffles, and according to friends and neighbors I've asked - with the baffles IN - their perception is that its more quiet than stock! I think that its a little more "basso" in sound, and not quite as tractor-ish. Sound energy is likely higher, but bias is toward lower frequencies. I too perceive it more quiet except at very high (track) speeds. At very high speed, I can now hear the engine/exhaust - where I couldn't with the stock exhaust. Remove the baffles and whack the throttle WFO however ... well that's another story.
The Akra EVOs look great too. Fit and build quality are superb. As good as I've seen on any exhaust ever (Leo Vince being my historical benchmark). I weighed the bits, and the bike lost just shy of 14 Lbs. So what, right? Well, that 14Lbs. is up high and pretty far up and back - mass effectively cantilevered pretty far out WRT the rear suspension.
They are expensive. Do you get what you pay for? A matter of opinion. For me, yes. As many will attest, the FMF look great and are well-priced. They are stupid loud (see mods to quiet them in other threads here - lol - not kidding). Build quality is marginal, and they have a mixed reputation WRT durability, particularly with the thumper crowd.
Good luck with your decision.
levert
2011-09-28 18:15:00 UTC
If it cures the dreaded snatchy ride off the corner and its not obscene loud Ill do it.
As far as removing the secondaries, id go first with the stock set up. I just did not want the bog down some are getting.
My tuneecu cable is on back order and this will be a winter project.
It is a piss off that everyone elses bikes dont have this issue. Overall the bike is still two thumbs up in my book and is what I wanted, fun to ride.
What also pisses me off is people asking what bike it is and I answer "KTM" Then they say does BMW make it??????
Next time Ill just say yes, KTM is BMW in french
KTM666
2011-09-28 18:24:00 UTC
PC111 about 30%
Removing secondarys and Air Filter (Either MH or DNA) custom map 55%
.....its the Holy Grail....so its not easy...but worth it
SDNerd
2011-09-28 18:52:00 UTC
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KTM666
2011-09-28 19:47:00 UTC
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levert
2011-09-28 20:00:00 UTC
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SDNerd
2011-09-28 20:30:00 UTC
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Ducati Pete
2011-09-28 21:46:00 UTC
I've got to say the fueling was pretty good as stock on that bike.
KTM666
2011-09-29 04:43:00 UTC
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AGRO!
2011-09-29 09:14:00 UTC
Mr_Trecolareco
2011-09-29 09:34:00 UTC
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AGRO!
2011-09-29 09:54:00 UTC
As for the standard mufflers when you go for a ride next and its a hot day soon as you get home take your seat off and check just how hot the sub frame is you will be shocked.
With the yoshi pipes I can come home from a ride and put my hand on the muffler without the fear of needing a skin graft.
One67
2011-09-29 11:28:00 UTC
Even the so called heat shields on the stock pipes would take your skin off if you got too close.
levert
2011-09-29 11:54:00 UTC
When the time comes Ill hit you guys for the map.
Funny as I had a stock 2008 SDR for some track time and it did not have as much herky jerky?
Thanks for the opinions and info.
SDNerd
2011-09-29 16:10:00 UTC
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Ducati Pete
2011-09-29 16:33:00 UTC
Men fit more aggresive one for a quick action feel.
TLS_Russ
2011-09-30 17:35:00 UTC
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SDNerd
2011-10-01 00:26:00 UTC
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trackday junkie
2011-10-02 21:31:00 UTC
You're right, the SDR on track works stock.(It can be a LOT BETTER)
It's a stone bitch, stock, in traffic.
Jeff