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Superduke versus Kawasaki H2

bic_bicknell

bic_bicknell

2014-05-26 21:37:00 UTC

OK, so as we all predicted the two bikes are incomparable.

There's nothing to compare between the two in any sense of fair appraisal. If you did this then the SD wins. On every level. Of course it does.

But as to the riding experience and the buzz you get from riding then there is a healthy debate to be had. Been riding about on the H2 for over a week now and it's been a full on regression into memories of my early biking years and nostalgia for times gone by. As I posted before, there are many things that you have to get used to, the shit brakes, the slow way it turns, the suspension that is barely more advanced than a horse and cart. But it has some characteristics that are not to be found on modern bikes.

Throwing your leg over, it's small and flat, like getting onto an ironing board. No sense of 'sitting in it", you just spread your legs over a plank, but the seat is so comfy and well padded, it's like an armchair. US spec bars feel like a chopper and it's so low that both feet easily place flat flat on the floor. Starting procedure is nostalgic, petrol on, choke lever pressed, footrest up and kick-start lever out. Big kick lever, bit too high for comfort, high compression when cold with a risk of kickback, nothing like a four stroke but still respectable and worth being aware of. Prod, prod, prod. Takes about three kicks from cold then fires into life with a cacophony of clatter, rattle and smoke. Choke off and blip the throttle to clear everything up and warm the engine.

Into first, (up on the lever, it's a five up gearbox with neutral at the bottom), then up the revs and off. Don't need too many revs to clear the engine, less than you'd think, it has loads of low down torque, more than my 400S3. Turbine smooth with that unique triple induction sound from the standard air-box. I remember it much louder with K&N filters but as standard it feels like a jet engine. Hit 4000 RPM and things start to change, surge of power and the vibrations increase. By 5-6RPM the engine feels like it's going to vibrate itself to bits but it's still on the up and the power is just coming on. Then madness till the red line. Bonkers!

It makes me glad that I have the option of which bike to ride.

Stratkat

Stratkat

2014-05-29 12:46:00 UTC

nah, like driving a Model T Ford. sure it would be fun initially but id miss the huge improvement modern technology has brought.

bic_bicknell

bic_bicknell

2014-05-29 12:57:00 UTC

No, it's like driving a 1970's AC Cobra.

Stratkat

Stratkat

2014-05-29 18:41:00 UTC

yeah but Cobras are still considered fast!

bic_bicknell

bic_bicknell

2014-05-29 19:05:00 UTC

Don't be mean! It still feels fast, especially when you know it can't stop

SDNerd

SDNerd

2014-05-29 21:03:00 UTC

Post missing.

fatbob

fatbob

2014-05-29 22:41:00 UTC

+1 what SDnerd said..
B 4 I read SDnerds comments I was going to say look for a whole front end to swap it out with. Save your parts for when you want to sell it.
Modern forks, disk brakes, new hub, alloy rim with spokes minus tube. That should set you towards this day and age more so. Updated shocks in the rear and Bobs your Uncle

shadowman

shadowman

2014-05-30 09:28:00 UTC

I had a ride on an RC30 recently , old bikes look awesome , however anyone thats reshagged an old gilrfriend will realise that you imagination has bigged up your memory of the event.
The bike was really wank to ride in comparison to what i envisaged it would be

Willh

Willh

2014-05-30 10:04:00 UTC

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be

bic_bicknell

bic_bicknell

2014-05-30 10:26:00 UTC

Here's the thing as I see it. Double up the disks and good master, maybe look for a Z1 front end to keep it looking stock. But now those, (guessing), 35mm forks will be showing how stiff they aren't. You'll start riding faster and need more clearance, you'll need those Denco chambers now. Pushing it in the corners and seeing how much frame flex there is, ( and why they were considered poor handlers), it's time to modify the frame, hell even full frame swap maybe. Modern fork swap at least with a set Ohlins rear shocks. Next, mat black carbon and the rest of the bike blacked out

Just jealous, my 750 was a fun beast. Nice wide power band. Not like my built rz350 that had a narrow band that hit hard and could surprise, not always in a good way...


Edited for autocorrect errors...