The fook is going on with the nose? It's like they took a 990 SMT front end and said how can we make this worse?
The 6.5 gallons of fuel capacity is really nice though.
Pics for the lazy:
Aphex
2015-10-06 19:57:00 UTC
The fook is going on with the nose? It's like they took a 990 SMT front end and said how can we make this worse?
The 6.5 gallons of fuel capacity is really nice though.
Pics for the lazy:
SDNerd
2015-10-06 20:30:00 UTC
I like it....as far as looks for a SMT go
ktmguy
2015-10-06 21:29:00 UTC
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cdlabate
2015-10-06 21:45:00 UTC
got a lil throw up in my mouth
fugly is a understatement !!!!!
fugly is a understatement !!!!!
Lowrance
2015-10-06 22:42:00 UTC
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omky756
2015-10-07 00:58:00 UTC
I wonder if the larger tank will be interchangeable?
Stratkat
2015-10-07 02:39:00 UTC
I wonder if the larger tank will be interchangeable?
Aphex
2015-10-07 03:23:00 UTC
Just needs a different headlight setup.
SDNerd
2015-10-07 14:48:00 UTC
I got invited to be involved in a small consumer rating/review (5 people) of this bike here in LA about 8-9 months ago (photos and discussion only)....was sworn to secrecy but now the cat is out of the bag. Couple of designers came over from Europe for the effort, one from Kiska and the other from KTM.
To be honest, the final product looks much better than the cammo version seen in these teaser photos. The painted versions do look pretty slick but it still has that monster shark mouth on it though. The one thing I suggested they consider revising (well, that and the ridiculous SS swingarm).
If AC's review is accurate, this could be THE do it all road bike.
To be honest, the final product looks much better than the cammo version seen in these teaser photos. The painted versions do look pretty slick but it still has that monster shark mouth on it though. The one thing I suggested they consider revising (well, that and the ridiculous SS swingarm).
If AC's review is accurate, this could be THE do it all road bike.
Aphex
2015-10-07 16:23:00 UTC
I agree!!Remember the camo 1290SDR??Wasnt great was it....KTM do nice looking machines....have some faith:)
Lowrance
2015-10-08 02:47:00 UTC
Of course it doesn't look as good as the SDR. It's a "do it all" bike. Anyone remember the SMT? That bike was the same, one of the best bikes to own as far as usability, but definitely not the best looking. And honestly, there aren't many bikes out there that come close to looking as good as the SDR1290.
This GT is not going to be bought by current SDR owners, but hopefully it gets more people buying KTMs so they can keep developing big horsepower V-twins.
I for one will keep traction control off, and take the wind in the face.
This GT is not going to be bought by current SDR owners, but hopefully it gets more people buying KTMs so they can keep developing big horsepower V-twins.
I for one will keep traction control off, and take the wind in the face.
Bermo KTM
2015-10-08 05:29:00 UTC
My opinion..
What a fookn joke..!!
Definitely isn't a good direction.. Already have the market
with duel sport top dog..
The injuns are going backwards..
The need to perfect their Superduke..
I hesitate knowing I can buy a v4 of better
quality and less p.i.t.a.fix to make it right..
My opinion..
KTM DID GOOD.. BUT NOT BETTER.!!!
= 1290cc. 163h.p.
Aprilia Tuono 1100cc 175h.p.
Better electronics..
Quick shifter standard..
Switch modes on the fly...
Anyone ride a new 1100 Tuono.???
Let alone.. the new rsv4...??
201h.p.
Out the door cheaper too..
Except the rsv4rf
What a fookn joke..!!
Definitely isn't a good direction.. Already have the market
with duel sport top dog..
The injuns are going backwards..
The need to perfect their Superduke..
I hesitate knowing I can buy a v4 of better
quality and less p.i.t.a.fix to make it right..
My opinion..
KTM DID GOOD.. BUT NOT BETTER.!!!
= 1290cc. 163h.p.
Aprilia Tuono 1100cc 175h.p.
Better electronics..
Quick shifter standard..
Switch modes on the fly...
Anyone ride a new 1100 Tuono.???
Let alone.. the new rsv4...??
201h.p.
Out the door cheaper too..
Except the rsv4rf
Aphex
2015-10-08 12:19:00 UTC
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SDNerd
2015-10-08 15:53:00 UTC
The biggest kick in the dick for all 1290 SDR owners:
"It also gets a standard quickshifter."
"Oh, and more power and torque too. KTM aren’t saying exactly what power it’s producing yet but we reckon on more than 180bhp."
So I wonder what they did differently to make it work on this bike.
"It also gets a standard quickshifter."
"Oh, and more power and torque too. KTM aren’t saying exactly what power it’s producing yet but we reckon on more than 180bhp."
So I wonder what they did differently to make it work on this bike.
Bermo KTM
2015-10-08 17:42:00 UTC
Quickshifter - NBD - they sourced the sensor, etc. from a 3rd party, and integrated into the ECM. Will no doubt show up as a $650 accessory (+$250 stealer re-flash) for the SDR. Probably fuel-cut based ... LOL - will be a "standard" item on the 2016-2017 SDR.
BFD
More power: Bullshit. Moto rag/marketing hype. 150 RWHP. There are only 2 ways to increase power without change in displacement: increase compression and/or let the engine spin faster. Either of these have other considerations/ramifications; I can't see KTM successfully rolling out a variable valve timing/lift system any time soon to keep the broad power band (part of the reason they puffed the displacement to 'busa territory), while making more power.
QUACK-QUACK
BFD
More power: Bullshit. Moto rag/marketing hype. 150 RWHP. There are only 2 ways to increase power without change in displacement: increase compression and/or let the engine spin faster. Either of these have other considerations/ramifications; I can't see KTM successfully rolling out a variable valve timing/lift system any time soon to keep the broad power band (part of the reason they puffed the displacement to 'busa territory), while making more power.
QUACK-QUACK
Lowrance
2015-10-10 14:25:00 UTC
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Lowrance
2015-10-10 14:51:00 UTC
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cdlabate
2015-10-10 17:30:00 UTC
I wouldn't knock cruise control until you've tried it. I have it on my current bike which I use strictly for weekend blasts and track duty. The feature is amazingly good. Droning down a super slab with cruise before (and especially after) tearing up the twisty bits is magic...really.
Not sure if I'll be able to own another road bike without it.
You forgot the QS.
Not sure if I'll be able to own another road bike without it.
You forgot the QS.
enigma990
2015-10-11 03:51:00 UTC
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990 WFO
2015-10-22 07:10:00 UTC
I know one thing. It's coming out with quick shifter. I just hope that it will be available for SDR. It would be nice to have one.
Bermo KTM
2015-11-02 19:20:00 UTC
Bermo KTM
2015-11-02 20:22:00 UTC
Where is that pic from??
While searching, I found something that shows that the GT will be even more special than anyone realised:
KTM has unveiled its 1290 Super Duke GT touring sports bike and it’s coming to Australia early next year to fire up the touring sector.
It is powered by the lethal weapon 10301cc V-twin engine with new cylinder heads and new combustion and ignition maps for a more easily controlled bike that suits its touring capabilities.
Now, where DID I put that Traction Control....
While searching, I found something that shows that the GT will be even more special than anyone realised:
KTM has unveiled its 1290 Super Duke GT touring sports bike and it’s coming to Australia early next year to fire up the touring sector.
It is powered by the lethal weapon 10301cc V-twin engine with new cylinder heads and new combustion and ignition maps for a more easily controlled bike that suits its touring capabilities.
Now, where DID I put that Traction Control....
ilmothefinn
2015-11-03 00:12:00 UTC
One thing I will say about KTM: they typically don't give a flying #^$% about their heritage or their roots. They are a company always seeking to improve their product. If they happen to alienate some of their customers or deviate from their traditional path, so be it. Look at the 1290 Super Duke. This came from a company who only a few years ago strictly built rattling single-cylinder dirt bikes and super-motos. I personally feel like the Super Duke and grand tourer don't belong in the same sentence, but then again there were a lot of people who thought a 1300cc naked bike was ridiculous as well once upon a time. Regardless, at least KTM is doing SOMETHING with their line-up. I'd rather them make questionable decisions than just sit on their product line and be left behind.
Bermo KTM
2015-11-03 22:13:00 UTC
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ktmguy
2015-11-04 10:17:00 UTC
they have one already
ilmothefinn
2015-11-04 16:20:00 UTC
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Lowrance
2015-11-05 17:54:00 UTC
that's why I said it ,
BrandonH
2015-11-11 17:36:00 UTC
I don't like windscreens and I like wind on my body when riding. It does some strain at higher speeds but it also is a good exercise for neck and stomach muscles. The body adjusts for the situations on the long run... Motocycling and masochism have something in common.
I also have begun to like the looks. At first I thought it is horrible, but when I look at them I slowly get the idea. Someone mentioned mantis - well I like their style. Old V-max (don't like the new one) had some too, looks...
We formerly had XJR:s and those were about the most beautiful bikes there could be. At least post 90:ies... Specially the engine is a classic. Sadly they were a bit on a heavy side and inline4 is acoustically dull. I did everything I could on mine (welded a complete collector, had supertrapps for endcans) and still it sounded like - inline4...
I had already lost interest in motorcycles but disease came back when I found SDR1290... It had what I expected Yamaha to have in MT-01 but didn't deliver, SDR1290 is light, seating position is just made for my body (I'm 6"1, 220lbs), it has only the essentials, V2 with plenty of torque down low where I like to travel... I don't ride it like youngsters ride their race replica's, I ride it like it was a tractor... I rode my XJR like it was a tractor and well, people don't change so easily. I just like it when on 5th gear, I give it some GO at 2500-3000 I/min (it's a bit tuned for that too so it does deliver). Can feel the pulses then... And the sound when decelerating (has decat, too), that scares the mooses off the road (that's a fact!)...
OK, 1290 GT might have a market. As I said somewhere, I think a platform-thinking is a good idea. So be there alternatives for people, they already have 3 good engines, 1050, 1190 1290... Or... Should it be 1050, 1190, 1390? There's no substitute for...
The build quality sucks anyhow, they have to concentrate on this.
I also have begun to like the looks. At first I thought it is horrible, but when I look at them I slowly get the idea. Someone mentioned mantis - well I like their style. Old V-max (don't like the new one) had some too, looks...
We formerly had XJR:s and those were about the most beautiful bikes there could be. At least post 90:ies... Specially the engine is a classic. Sadly they were a bit on a heavy side and inline4 is acoustically dull. I did everything I could on mine (welded a complete collector, had supertrapps for endcans) and still it sounded like - inline4...
I had already lost interest in motorcycles but disease came back when I found SDR1290... It had what I expected Yamaha to have in MT-01 but didn't deliver, SDR1290 is light, seating position is just made for my body (I'm 6"1, 220lbs), it has only the essentials, V2 with plenty of torque down low where I like to travel... I don't ride it like youngsters ride their race replica's, I ride it like it was a tractor... I rode my XJR like it was a tractor and well, people don't change so easily. I just like it when on 5th gear, I give it some GO at 2500-3000 I/min (it's a bit tuned for that too so it does deliver). Can feel the pulses then... And the sound when decelerating (has decat, too), that scares the mooses off the road (that's a fact!)...
OK, 1290 GT might have a market. As I said somewhere, I think a platform-thinking is a good idea. So be there alternatives for people, they already have 3 good engines, 1050, 1190 1290... Or... Should it be 1050, 1190, 1390? There's no substitute for...
The build quality sucks anyhow, they have to concentrate on this.
DribbleDuke
2015-11-17 21:31:00 UTC
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Lowrance
2015-11-17 21:43:00 UTC
[quote="SUPER DUKE #1
Wow all of the things (except for the quick shifter) that are on the SUPER ADVENTURE and I bet you missed the HEATED SEAT Still sounds like a Super Grand Touring model to me and NOT a Duke bare fisted naked street brawler, just me I guess. I wonder if the "R" model will have a 21" front wheel?[/quote]
I wanted to keep some a surprise [SMIRKING FACE].
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Wow all of the things (except for the quick shifter) that are on the SUPER ADVENTURE and I bet you missed the HEATED SEAT Still sounds like a Super Grand Touring model to me and NOT a Duke bare fisted naked street brawler, just me I guess. I wonder if the "R" model will have a 21" front wheel?[/quote]
I wanted to keep some a surprise [SMIRKING FACE].
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enigma990
2015-11-17 23:11:00 UTC
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ktmguy
2015-11-18 01:46:00 UTC
Well I missed all of the release info on KTM's website and on here on the GT so it's a done or dumb deal and now in my eyes the Duke and Super Duke image, bloodline and ancestry as a NAKED Streetfighter is over, apparently according to KTM that's what "we" Super Duke owners wanted, a fat tanked, half dressed, sport TOURING bike. I just can't wait for the new questions on where can I find larger panniers, why doesn't my hill hold work sometimes, anyone know where I can find a drink holder for my latte cup, what kind of fuel economy are you getting, anyone going to the Goldwing rally, anyone mount highway pegs yet, does anyone make a top case with a backrest. Sorry for all of the ranting but I just don't get where KTM got the idea that this is what Super Duke enthusiasts were asking for??? Oh well life goes on, still a sad day to me with the loss of the Duke's "badass" image.
Bermo KTM
2015-11-18 03:37:00 UTC
I think you need a name change. How about Harley riders think I'm cool #1
cdlabate
2015-11-18 04:12:00 UTC
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xrpilot
2015-11-18 06:17:00 UTC
This forum needs an emoji of a little yellow guy beating a dead horse
enigma990
2015-11-18 06:59:00 UTC
Sarasota_Steve
2015-11-18 08:47:00 UTC
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DribbleDuke
2015-11-18 10:47:00 UTC
here we go again , far be it for a company ie: ktm to try to make some money by expanding their range !! there are some on here that think ktm only make bikes for them !!!! guys get a grip will you , you selfish barstewards !!
xrpilot
2015-11-18 12:22:00 UTC
ktmguy
2015-11-18 14:12:00 UTC
Are they trying to make the 1290r look a bargain now
fatbob
2015-11-18 15:30:00 UTC
I'm starting to like it. Looks like a great commuter!
ktmguy
2015-11-19 04:22:00 UTC
It's kind of growing on me, like mold, it just creeps up on you. I just wish like someone else said on here and called it the Super GT, now that's a cool name
Lowrance
2015-11-28 15:14:00 UTC
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ktmguy
2015-12-03 17:01:00 UTC
My wife calls my garage "My toy shop".....damn her
xrpilot
2015-12-04 00:50:00 UTC
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Lowrance
2015-12-04 13:41:00 UTC
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Kotari
2015-12-05 04:32:00 UTC
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Scotty
2015-12-08 19:18:00 UTC
Seems to be limited info coming out on delivery of this bike. The GT still has not made it on the Canada and U.S. KTM websites. Know of a Guy in Austria who just ordered a GT, but was told delivery would not be until March 2016. Anyone else hear of delivery dates in their part of the world?
BrandonH
2015-12-08 22:57:00 UTC
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Sarasota_Steve
2015-12-09 03:15:00 UTC
Interesting. I have talked to a couple of dealers here in western Canada. One says that KTM Canada has not heard, the other says the GT will be here in spring 2016? I did watch a video from EICMA with the KTM international HR guy saying "the GT will be in all markets by March 2016". But have read some articles saying the GT will be here in spring and some saying in the fall? WTF?
scamb66
2015-12-09 04:50:00 UTC
Typical KTM.
Scotty
2015-12-09 13:01:00 UTC
I spoke with the dealer here in Finland, and they said that they ordered one bike already and are waiting for it to arrive in the spring of 2016.
cdlabate
2015-12-10 08:24:00 UTC
Jeez guys, get a grip... if you don't like it, don't buy it. Simples.
You can ride around in smug mode on Your SDRs, safe in the knowledge that you are riding the true Duke DNA, unlike these other guys on the same bike with a screen on it...
A couple of years ago I looked at getting an SMT as a 2-up bike, rode one and quite liked it save for the fact that it didn't have the full-fat 990 SD engine spec. Chatting to the dealer afterwards (Premier Bikes, Didcot, UK) they said that the 990 SMT wasn't due for an upgrade as it would be superseded by a 1290 variant - this was in the middle of 2013. Personally I don't mind it, but I'm surprised that they haven't called it the SMT to differentiate it from the SDR - maybe it's closer mechanically to the SDR than the SMT was to the 990 SD?
You can ride around in smug mode on Your SDRs, safe in the knowledge that you are riding the true Duke DNA, unlike these other guys on the same bike with a screen on it...
A couple of years ago I looked at getting an SMT as a 2-up bike, rode one and quite liked it save for the fact that it didn't have the full-fat 990 SD engine spec. Chatting to the dealer afterwards (Premier Bikes, Didcot, UK) they said that the 990 SMT wasn't due for an upgrade as it would be superseded by a 1290 variant - this was in the middle of 2013. Personally I don't mind it, but I'm surprised that they haven't called it the SMT to differentiate it from the SDR - maybe it's closer mechanically to the SDR than the SMT was to the 990 SD?
enigma990
2015-12-10 14:26:00 UTC
^ You said it all right there!
Aphex
2016-01-08 01:37:00 UTC
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Lowrance
2016-01-08 11:50:00 UTC
So, the big question is????
Do we allow GT owners to join or are we going to remain elitist?
It is a Superduke after all.
Do we allow GT owners to join or are we going to remain elitist?
It is a Superduke after all.
Aphex
2016-01-08 12:15:00 UTC
Good point Scamb, I currently have a 990SD, and a Triumph Tiger 800 for more sensible activity with a pillion (she refuses to get on the back of the SD) and after learning about the GT I figured that there was one bike that could fulfill the roles of two that I currently have (and need to keep both taxed, tested and insured all the time). This spring I will be getting a couple of test rides on a GT, both two-up and solo to see how well it does both jobs, and if i like it I'll sell the 990 and the Tiger and go for the GT.
I'm only a relative new kid without too many posts and haven't been here very long (and I'm still learning all about the new terminology such as SAS, Flies, Motohooligan airboxes and the like
I'm only a relative new kid without too many posts and haven't been here very long (and I'm still learning all about the new terminology such as SAS, Flies, Motohooligan airboxes and the like
Lowrance
2016-01-08 14:57:00 UTC
I have no problem with a GT sub forum.
I have also considered selling my 990 and F800 for the GT..? I'll see what the reviews are first. I think if I sell the 990 and F800 I will get the GT and a EXC500 .
I have also considered selling my 990 and F800 for the GT..? I'll see what the reviews are first. I think if I sell the 990 and F800 I will get the GT and a EXC500 .
enigma990
2016-02-19 16:19:00 UTC
So bringing this back to the fore anybody heard when the launch is for the GT? All seemed to have gone quiet since the recent promo vid.........bit worrying?
Lowrance
2016-02-19 19:11:00 UTC
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Aphex
2016-02-19 22:26:00 UTC
I have heard the North American release for the GT is the end of June, with 2017 bikes available fall 2016.
DukeNukem999
2016-04-14 03:23:00 UTC
I agree, having recently looked into the KTM / Superduke range as a noob, its confusing to have a Superduke thats really an SMT.....
Saying that I don't mind the looks tbh .. but then again I like the Yamaha MT-10 in Black too (just wish they'd change the wheel colour).
Saying that I don't mind the looks tbh .. but then again I like the Yamaha MT-10 in Black too (just wish they'd change the wheel colour).
scamb66
2016-04-18 20:34:00 UTC
5 are already on the road. We had the Motoh (that's how they spell it) fair this last weekend. It's been in our local dealers for the last two and a half weeks.
Some are very excited and attracted by it, some concentrate on specific novelties like QS or CC or the suspension, some are happy there's more room, and some don't seem to be moved by it in any way.
Not that anyone asked, but I look at it with the same blank stare with which I gaze upon the 2016 SDR - where the only change is the clutch fluid is no longer mineral.
Some are very excited and attracted by it, some concentrate on specific novelties like QS or CC or the suspension, some are happy there's more room, and some don't seem to be moved by it in any way.
Not that anyone asked, but I look at it with the same blank stare with which I gaze upon the 2016 SDR - where the only change is the clutch fluid is no longer mineral.
Plake
2016-10-07 07:17:00 UTC
I got some laughs reading this thread, having owned and travelled 18,000Ks on the SD1290R, and now 700Ks on the GT, well the GT performs just like the R, its a little more stable at high cornering speeds, (i removed all front and rear chicken strips in the first 100K) the GT is very inspiring, it corners like its on rails, the screen, and extended head light give the bike better high speed stability, the electronic suspension is great, I'm finding 1 person and luggage setting in street mode, very similar to how i had the R set up for road riding, there is many plusses to the GT over the R, but one thing and only negative is, I've noticed is the extra weight while pushing the bike around, one big plus is getting over 300K from a tank of gas. cornering lights and cornering ABS also big plusses, other than that, these bikes are very similar. Once its had its first service, and i get a pipe ill be able to give a better idea how well this bike does, loving so far. ....OH PS, in NZ the first shipment (15) of GTs, sold out in a week, the next shipment was due in march next year, and with interest and orders adding up, KTM NZ brought in 10 from the US, one of which i brought, and 4 others were pre sold also. I think KTM got the bike right, and right for the market.
Sarasota_Steve
2016-10-08 03:19:00 UTC
Cheers for the comparo Dave.
The older I get the more the GT makes better sense. I generally do more k's on my Tiger 800XC, not for its off road functionality, although it does get some but just because it's a better bike over longer distances and shitty roads.
The 1290 only really gets used for quick squirts. It has actually been that long since I rode it that the battery went flat. Maybe time to ditch both and just get a GT.
The older I get the more the GT makes better sense. I generally do more k's on my Tiger 800XC, not for its off road functionality, although it does get some but just because it's a better bike over longer distances and shitty roads.
The 1290 only really gets used for quick squirts. It has actually been that long since I rode it that the battery went flat. Maybe time to ditch both and just get a GT.
scamb66
2016-10-08 05:37:00 UTC
The GT is a great bike Scamb, but the unthinkable happened today, while chasing my mates up over a MT (windy hill) as exiting a fast up hill corner that has a sunken bump in it where the suspension loads up then un loads as you get on the gas, well there had been some road works, but the road looked cleanish, well i got hard on the gas and the backend let go, it gripped and i thought id saved it, but was so out of shape i lost it low siding it at around a 100kph, bike slid up the road grinding the shit out of the right hand side, she's pretty damaged, and going to cost a heap to repair, I'm ok got a baddy swollen ankle, (hope its not broken) some burn graze marks up my back, and a bruised hip, lucky, as me and the bike slid up hill and didn't hit any thing solid. Depressed the bikes pretty damaged, oh well fukit, bite the bullet and get the parts ordered.
Plake
2016-10-08 07:01:00 UTC
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scamb66
2016-10-08 09:13:00 UTC
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AGRO!
2016-10-08 14:02:00 UTC
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DukeNukem999
2016-10-08 18:26:00 UTC
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HMak
2016-10-09 01:16:00 UTC
Well that sucks. Doesn't take much to do damage to your ankle so hope all goes ok, not going to help groveling in the mud at Phillip Island if you have crutches.
The old 990s crash pretty well, hope the GT is just a few plastic panels.
The old 990s crash pretty well, hope the GT is just a few plastic panels.
fatbob
2017-11-07 15:11:00 UTC
Can't answer your question but there is an update due apparently , so either haggle for a decent deal or wait for the new un
HMak
2017-11-10 19:40:00 UTC
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