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False neutrals and reverse shifting

Jermo

Jermo

2012-08-18 08:57:00 UTC

Couple of days ago I did a trackday with the SD (07) and had some troubles with quick up and downshifts on the straights, mostly upshifts that gave me troubles. The bike didn't get into the next gear and felt back in gear I was in before shifting. Even a couple of false neutrals, mostly during quick downshifts.
In the last session I rode more relaxed (but quicker) and didn't had any issues with the box.
On the road though, I notice some shifting troubles now and then with upshifting, mostly from 2nd to 3rd and I get a false neutral. Since this last thing hurts my balls with wheelies, I wondered what you guys did to shift more convincing.

I'd like to know if reversing the shift pattern solved this problem for some of you.

AGRO!

AGRO!

2012-08-18 09:38:00 UTC

Have you checked the gear lever linkages? Might has a bolt coming loose.
Also have a look at this .......
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=753640

Jermo

Jermo

2012-08-18 10:26:00 UTC

Post missing.

Viking

Viking

2012-08-18 11:30:00 UTC

Chain too tight?

motoronin

motoronin

2012-08-18 13:01:00 UTC

Exactly what made me crash at Coppice...

Jermo

Jermo

2012-08-18 15:06:00 UTC

Post missing.

Superdan

Superdan

2012-08-18 15:09:00 UTC

My 06 SD's gear box was gash, you had to be really positive with the lever, ended up going for reverse shift pattern. Was fine on road but just crap on track.

BASH69 had the same issues and said he only had it with 40T rear sprocket.

Never had a false neutral though.

Jermo

Jermo

2012-08-18 15:15:00 UTC

Post missing.

Superdan

Superdan

2012-08-18 15:22:00 UTC

Crap = poo/rubbish/not very good.

I only went reverse shift because you had to really force it up the box when on the gas, and stamping down gives more force than lifting the foot up so easier changes, worked better though, that was the only reason.

Jermo

Jermo

2012-08-18 15:30:00 UTC

Post missing.

jambox

jambox

2012-08-18 15:32:00 UTC

I've had a fair few false neutrals when changing down, but never going up.

I put it down to me not stamping the lever fully, but might whip off the cover in the link and have a looksy.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2012-08-19 09:46:00 UTC

I've had more than my fair share of false neutrals. Anything other than firm positive shifts down the box could result in one. Not good tanking into a corner in neutral.

I use reverse pattern and love it. Makes more sense and have less shift problems than before.

Jermo

Jermo

2012-08-19 10:56:00 UTC

Thanks guys, I know enough now:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=20037