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Pirelli Angel GT for 1290 too much?

SDNerd

SDNerd

2014-12-16 18:12:00 UTC

Used a Angel ST on my old Speed Triple. Had no issues. Ride only street, nothing crazy, roads always dry, conservative in corners and like to launch hard (of course).

Local sale has the Angel GT A Spec price about same as Dunlop Q3.

I'm looking to get more mileage from a rear with a center section that is more durable, but not if it's overkill or better suited for heavier bikes. Will a sport-touring tyre "feel" any different on a torquey lighter bike for my described usage?

Aphex

Aphex

2014-12-16 18:49:00 UTC

Traction depends on so many factors - some of which you've pointed out.

Not sure what your question is ... Are you worried that somehow the 1290 will overwhelm such a tyre? It won't, at least not as an artifact of the riding you describe.

That is between your brain, your right hand - and unlike 990s - traction control. I get the feeling that not all understand how TC works ... Probably needless to state, but these also have some bearing on the longevity of a tyre - any tyre.

Even on our lowly 990s, one can overwhelm ANY tyre that can be stuffed on the rim - even slicks fully warmed, on the cleanest, driest surfaces. Point is, if you're dipping into all the 1290's horsepower on the street, bad things are going to happen, the least of which is overwhelming the tyre - particularly if you leave the TC on.

Just like slicks ain't happy until fairly hot, ultra-high performance street-legal tyres don't usually work as well as ST buns in the cold and wet. Same certainly won't live as long as ST tyres, all else being equal.

ST tyres, while potentially longer-lived, won't give you quite the feel and feedback one would expect for the highest performing street tyre, but if you don't ride the bike at the limit (again, not a good idea on the street ...), there's no reason to not give sensible sport touring tyres a go - particularly if it's winter, rainy, cold, etc. Not like tyres are "forever" - if you really don't like them after a little wear-in (some suspension adjustment may be desirable), take 'em off an put on something else. If this is a cost-driven matter - why a 1290?

I do have this to say about Q3s - which I personally haven't put on any of my own bikes, but have ridden others' - they live a surprisingly long time. From what I've seen - dependent on use and right-wrist activity - as much as 50% more than some comparable performance street tyres. Your results may vary of course.

DribbleDuke

DribbleDuke

2014-12-16 18:59:00 UTC

Thanks for the great input.

I'm frugal. But don't like saving if performance is diminished, and based on what you said the 1290 will still scare me and perform like a superbike for my needs on the street with the GT.

Purchasing a 1290 (would not have been able to afford if not for family friend who owns dealership).... How many of us do not pay retail for 1290 related items? I believe this holds true in all aspects of MY life. Example: I own several expensive 1911 and other firearms....but reload to save on ammo. The money saved on things such as 1290 tyres goes towards other hobbies and items purchased for having fun. It all adds up....and eventually the money saved goes toward the next bike.

Again, thanks for the input. Looks like the Angel GT is a great option.

ktmguy

ktmguy

2014-12-16 20:56:00 UTC

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ktmguy

ktmguy

2014-12-16 21:11:00 UTC

^^^^
this

SDNerd

SDNerd

2014-12-16 22:05:00 UTC

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ktmguy

ktmguy

2014-12-17 14:47:00 UTC

I used the Pirelli Diablo Stradas a few years ago and totally loved them, they gave me so much confidence and warmed up quickly unlike certain sports tyres, one of which (Corsa III's) I felt was feckin dangerous and unless it was super hot, just felt like teflon !
The Angel ST replaced this tyre and I was sure it was going to be better, but I did not think it was as good as the Strada. I found I could get hold of the Stada still and have them back on the bike and am made up. I know they don't make them any more but as long as I can still get them I will, and for £85 a rear, it seems like stealing
The GT obviously replaces the ST, but it's pricey and perhaps in time I will give them a go.

Davo-Singapore

Davo-Singapore

2014-12-18 00:28:00 UTC

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