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Interesting SD Fuelling Article

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2012-08-03 07:18:00 UTC

Jermo

Jermo

2012-08-03 09:51:00 UTC

Great find Gin!

Willh

Willh

2012-08-03 12:16:00 UTC

What .... we can do all that to our Superdukes

SDNerd

SDNerd

2012-08-03 16:51:00 UTC

How quick we forget ... viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19460&p=231326&hilit=Motorcycle+Consumer+News#p231326

BTW - they totally dorked on the interpretation of "Open Loop" v. "Closed Loop". "Open loop" is a non-feedback scenario. Removing the 02 sensor (or turning it off), put ANY ECM into an open loop state; in the case of the SD, mapping no longer adjust to achieve an "ideal" (KTM's version of ideal anyway ...) air-fuel (A/F) ratio.

"Closed loop" operation would be in using the O2 sensors. That is, the O2 sensors close the feedback loop; where the EFI relies on not only the input parameters of air temperature (and some systems, humidity), air pressure, engine speed, throttle position, in some instances gear selected, bike speed, engine temperature, etc. These sensors as most of you know, measure the oxygen content in the exhaust stream, and fueling is modified (algorithmically or by map selection) dynamically to achieve an optimum (again, an optimum according to a given manufacturer, and regional emission control requirements ...). Without O2 sensors, there is no "feedback" whatsoever, and as a system, the EFI is effectively operated "open loop", with the arguable exception of the riders right hand being involved.

EDIT: Another thing they dorked on, is that an EFI will try to push the fueling to the "ideal" stoichiometric A/F of 14.7:1. This is simply false. Not only is it not the case, but this would be too lean in most scenarios where an engine has to live a while. On occasion, I've run into tunings where under some conditions, an engine might see 14:1 ... and that's pretty damn lean.

While I generally find the US MCN to be about the best moto rag on this side of the pond, like RRW, it can be pretty amateurish at times. That's OK, still good stuff.

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-05-06 15:29:00 UTC

Is there a link to part three- TuneECU- somewhere? I can't find, except for the cover of the issue the article is in.

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 14:43:00 UTC

Part 3 is in the August 2012 issue and part 4 is in the September 2012 issue of Motorcycle Consumer News. Their web page is out of date and half dead. They don't have part 3 and 4 linked on their web sight. The back issue link is dead, so you'd have to contact MCN to see if you can get the back issues needed to finish the series.

I'll see if I can scan parts 3 and 4. Just don't tell on me.

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 16:53:00 UTC

Part 3 page 1 0f 4

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 16:56:00 UTC

Part 3 page 2 of 4

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 16:57:00 UTC

Part 3 page 3 of 4

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 16:58:00 UTC

Part 3 page 4 of 4

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 16:59:00 UTC

Part 4 page 1 of 6

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 17:00:00 UTC

Part 4 page 2 of 6

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 17:01:00 UTC

Part 4 page 3 of 6

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 17:01:00 UTC

Part 4 page 4 of 6

Paulzilla

Paulzilla

2013-07-17 17:02:00 UTC

Part 4 page 5 of 6

jambox

jambox

2013-07-17 17:03:00 UTC

Part 4 page 6 of 6