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Cadwell Sunday 15th May No Limits

BASH69

BASH69

2011-04-28 09:59:00 UTC

Starting a new thread for this 1 as the old 1 got abit lost somehwere!

Cadwell Park on a sunny Sunday in May with No Limits £135. What more do you want

Jody

Jody

2011-04-28 17:19:00 UTC

I'll also be there on the monday

Loads of guys and gals from trackdayriders there sat and sun too !

Schnauzer

Schnauzer

2011-04-28 17:28:00 UTC

I'm seriously tempted - have you booked the weather?

Superdan

Superdan

2011-04-28 19:29:00 UTC

Not sure if there are inters places left Jules, you could book fast though? always drop down if its too fast? The weather up here has been lovely for ages, fingers crossed it stays that way.

Looking forward to seeing you guys (and looking at your SD's with envy)

BASH69

BASH69

2011-04-28 19:35:00 UTC

Me and Dave booked fast group today!

Theres no inters and as of this afternoon there was only 3 Fast group places left! (there is some novice though)

Weather is booked

Superdan

Superdan

2011-04-28 19:40:00 UTC

Sweet.

Bought a new set of Metzeler K3 Racetecs today, hopefully they go well. Went to try some Pirelli Supercorsa BSB's but they had no fronts.

Trying a 190 rear too will see what thats like as currently on a 180.

Schnauzer

Schnauzer

2011-04-29 17:59:00 UTC

Just went to book - it's sold out!

Superdan

Superdan

2011-04-29 18:40:00 UTC

Doh

Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-09 08:34:00 UTC

I have just booked Monday too, hopefully its not a wash out for both.

Used the discount code KTM facebook and got it for 110. Said there are still lots of places available for the monday (No Limits)

Schnauzer

Schnauzer

2011-05-09 11:21:00 UTC

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Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-09 22:11:00 UTC

Get yourself up here Jules!

If there are loads of places left worth waiting till thur/fri when hopefully the weather witll be more accurate

Schnauzer

Schnauzer

2011-05-09 22:18:00 UTC

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Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-10 08:41:00 UTC

Sounds like a damn good plan, if you need the bike looking after at Cadwell on Sunday save you trecking it about feel free, leave the keys though

Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-15 19:27:00 UTC

Nice to meet you Dave, Stew, always a pleasure.

Love to say I had a fun day (with the bike anyway)

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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2011-05-15 20:30:00 UTC

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Sabre

Sabre

2011-05-15 20:34:00 UTC

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Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-16 05:28:00 UTC

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BASH69

BASH69

2011-05-16 06:06:00 UTC

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tripoddave

tripoddave

2011-05-16 06:18:00 UTC

Good to meet you all!
Thanks to Stew aka Bash for the use of his gazebo, help and of course fuel! Sorry the day didn't work out for you mate: hope those ribs get better soon.

It's a shame Superdan had to learn the hard way but at least he's turning from the dark side now!
(I'll send you Jonny's details as soon as I can)

I found Cadwell difficult to get to grips with but feel it will be truly excellent when I get to grips with it. Looking forward to August 8/9, meeting up with you all and trying to improve those lines!

Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-16 17:10:00 UTC

Dave cancel the number, Colin managed to sort the bike, some tw@t does not know the difference between clockwise and anticlockwise and had the rebound set on the ohlins at 47

Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-16 17:30:00 UTC

Topping out surely Dan?

Good to hear otherwise it's dialed in. Is it really faster down the straight than a SD?

Sabre

Sabre

2011-05-16 17:39:00 UTC

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Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-16 18:02:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-16 18:28:00 UTC

Thanks Dan.

BASH69

BASH69

2011-05-16 18:40:00 UTC

Thank god it worked out for you Dan!

At least you had 1 good day at Cadderz!!!

Why dont you just do a quick oil change in the front forks (cheap and quick) and see if that improves it

Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-16 19:08:00 UTC

Its a possiblity dude

Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-16 21:06:00 UTC

Dan, are you sure you have the problem diagnosed correctly?

What does the front feel like when you release the brake prior to / as you turn in?

Sabre

Sabre

2011-05-16 21:46:00 UTC

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tripoddave

tripoddave

2011-05-17 06:42:00 UTC

That's really good to hear Dan.
Glad you had a good 2nd day: you look really good in the photo.
Did Jody get any video of you?

tripoddave

tripoddave

2011-05-17 06:47:00 UTC

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MrZ32

MrZ32

2011-05-17 07:17:00 UTC

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Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-17 14:09:00 UTC

I think Jody will have some footage but only if he ever gets round to editing it!

As for the forks Colin says the rear is now better than the front, the front fork oil is shagged and not settling properly and he now has no rebound left to compensate as its maxed out.

As im maxing out the suspension going up the hills it tips in fine but once cornering and in the corner it fails to rebound back/absorb the bumps very well, I talked this through with him and he got me to answer what it needed esentially, more rebound, but as stated its maxed out.

Would you disgree? I cant argue with him not enough knowledge here but I know what feels nice/solid and what doesnt.

I may get some better internals put in and a service. Hmmmm

Just got in touch with G2 who do the quick cam so thats on the list at least.

BASH69

BASH69

2011-05-17 14:45:00 UTC

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Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-17 17:20:00 UTC

Yes forks were just about bottoming out by the end of the day dude.

Jody

Jody

2011-05-17 19:29:00 UTC

Finally got home at 5AM today, Long weekend started on saturday when I was loading the van and Tom on the phone sounding like he want s me to convince him to come to cadders. A quick "MAN THE fook UP" from me and he decides he will come.

Leave my house at 1PM by the time I've picked up Tom and diverted to wolverhampton for Tom to borrow a compressor and it's 10PM by the time we get to cadwell. Dan's bike and trailer are there so we set up next to it.

Sunday
Normal sessions

1st session.
First time I ridden a bike since last october so was a little nervous and it showed, I was too tense and the bike was moving round underneath me (we'd had a few spots of rain). I took the session very gently, gradually building up speed/lean and trying to get the power on earlier and earlier.

2nd Session
Getting into it again now, more relaxed letting the bike move under me, starting to pick up pace. Think it was this session I saw Dan out there and straight away I could see he wasn't happy. It took no time at all to catch and pass him and I could see the too-homo was being just that

3rd session
still building the pace while riding in a way that I'm comfortable with, really blasting some people then really getting blasted by some others. Trying to build myself up to not braking into coppice (end of start finish straight) I'm getting near to the top end in sixth when I start to react (150mph ish) find myself dropping one gear but can't stop myself from brushing the front brake lever . That said I do seem to making ground on people going up that hill and dropping 2 gear before turning right at the top. Another rider stuck in my mind as he had "bale basher" (GSXR1000 I think) on his number plate and is from TDR. I saw him in the distance with his mate and went chasing after them, after 2 laps it was clear that these two were faster than me, the gap was getting bigger and bigger!!.

4th session
Started jumping the mountain by now, I'm pretty sure there is a faster line through there but jumping is the most fun !! saw Dan out again and he's clearly still struggling with his Ape. Had a bit of a battle with Bigash but unfortunately his knackered ribs are making riding fast very painful for him.

lunch

5th Session
One lap out and oil gets chucked down the track, all the way from park corner to the goose neck. red flag, held up for a few minutes then we got back out again. Moving my braking point for park closer and closer to the corner, but struggling to find a reference point, the change in tarmac is just that little bit too far down the straight. Changed from dropping 4 gears then short-shifting up to third right after park, to dropping 3 and keep it there. Also trying to initiate a slide with engine braking on the way into mansfield, the busstop and the left hander at the bottom of the mountain. Never got it right but a few times it was close and felt superb.

6th Session
Tom had moved back up to fast group on his race specc R1. He was going well, gave me quite a challenge to pass him. I was finnally managing to go into coppice without touching the brakes and was getting on the power much earlier onto the start finish straight.

7 th session
2 laps in and "bale basher" comes past me again. I tag on the back of him and off we go, a few corners later he gets stuck behind a CB500 cup bike and I pull up alongside him, we were 2 abreast going into the mountain but he had the inside line for the right so I let him have it, once over the mountain I managed to get passed him, through the hairpin, shsrt straight, up a gear, throw it right and feeeeed in the power. I'm proper head down on the tank at this point as I figure Bale Basher will be coming back past me at any second, to my surprise he hadn't by the time we got to coppice and I was glad of all the no braking practice I done earlier in the day. Left round coppice, stamp 2 gears down at the top of the hill, power back on and throw it right, close to the kerb then up over the blind crest, drift wide, cut back in for charlies 2, got to get the power on early as I suspect bale basher is right behind me, head down on the tank again up to park corner, down three gears and turn in, drift out wide the cut back in, put plenty of power on mid corner and then tuck more right for the top of the gooseneck, flick left and get the power on hard, down towards mansfield, drop a gear try and slide it in but all the actually happens it it's very squirmy !, turn in left tight to the kerb, grab another gear on way out, then back down the gear to get the back end loose for entering the bustop chicane, quick right then left and get the power on asap, change up then down again for the engine braking into the mountain. left, nice and close to the kerb, start to flick right and start getting the power on, by the time I'm 8/10th round the corner I have the throttle pinned, run wide to the kerb, then cut back in going over the mountain in the center of the track. As the front end lifts, chop the throttle for a faction of a second then power back on. Every time I hit the mountain hard I can feel the bike twisting underneath me, the back of the bike steps out to the right and there is a jolt when it lands. Fortunately I'm stood up so it doesn't effect me too bad and the suspension sorts itself out in fractions of a second. As the bike lands and jolts it also wheelies, back of the throttle just enough to start the front dropping then power back on, all while hanging off the right hand side of the bike trying to steer it from ending up in the holding area wall!Grab another gear along the short straight then its a quick right left right, up over the crest before dropping 2 gears and getting the back end sliding the wrong way (to the right) in order to scrub enough speed off for the hairpin. (not sure if that's the best way through there but I did pass a lot of people there over the 2 days).
This absolute balls out charging went on for another couple of laps, all the time expecting the GSXR to come pass me at any moment. As he hadn't come passed me I wondered if he might have gone in so snuck a look behind me, no there he was just a couple of feet from my back wheel so my head goes back down and away I go. 4 more laps ( I think vid taken will post it one day) of riding as fast as I could before the chequered flag comes out for end of session. I headed in and was absolutely f*cked. Bale Basher came up to talk to me afterwards opening with " I just couldn't get back past you" which I was pleased about as he'd been faster than me earlier in the day.

All in a good first day back on track after my winter lay off, shame Dan couldn't get his too-homo to work and a pity Ash wasn't fully fighting fit but a good day none the less.

Can't be arsed to write a full report on day 2 right now so here is a summery

wet to start, tyres were shit, got drier tyres were loads better but definitely ruined
Dans bike was sorted, he was happy and lots faster than Sunday, couldn't get him off his bike for more than 5 mins before he'd head back out again !!
Tom got faster, he could get by me but no matter what I couldn't compete with his 198RWBHP (I'm sure I'll learn to live with myself) and couldn't get passed him.

Got loads of footage from both days and some of it will be getting uploaded as and when.

Good to see Dan Ash and Sabre again plus nice to meet Tony and Dave (no-ones brave enough to ask him why he's tripod dave!!).
Dan and I also accosted a SDer in the paddock on sunday and we are expecting him to join the forum very soon.

Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-17 19:49:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-17 21:09:00 UTC

Nice report Jody.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2011-05-17 21:43:00 UTC

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Twisted Jester

Twisted Jester

2011-05-17 22:36:00 UTC

Nice write up Jody.

Glad Dans bike is getting up to scratch too.

Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-17 23:00:00 UTC

Also reminds me why I'm unlikely to go as quick as Jody 'round there - he really does push hard round that place.

Jody

Jody

2011-05-18 08:09:00 UTC

150 MPH was a guess but I was in top gear about 1000-1500 of the red line ??

Got indicated 155MPH at Bedford ??

Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-18 08:37:00 UTC

I was pinging of the redline at 144-5 at Bedford running 16-40 (i think), surprised you use 6th gear at Cadders? I have never seen over 130 on the SD at Cadders, the speedo is not so prominent on the T but we were not doing more than 120-5 before Coppice.

Hopefully will have a GOPRO for August and will follow you round, because being behind you as you get over the mountain will be some good footage!

BASH69

BASH69

2011-05-18 10:09:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2011-05-18 12:34:00 UTC

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Jody

Jody

2011-05-19 14:48:00 UTC

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Twisted Jester

Twisted Jester

2011-05-19 16:41:00 UTC

I thought I had 158 out of mine once but then I found out that the numptys at the dealers must have reset my clocks to 19inch wheel size

Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-19 16:42:00 UTC

Only used the cheap shit camera twice and it only recorded the warm up laps and switched off

BASH69

BASH69

2011-05-19 18:02:00 UTC

I found out today why my bike was like a fookin pogo stick (i thought it was me being too tense on the bike due to my ribs hurting and upsetting the handling). Turns out my rear shock has pissed its oil out and theres virtually no compression damping and it was bottoming out.

Ive been out in the garage tonight and set the shock on full stiff on compression (0 clicks) and i can still bottom it out!

Off to Ktech i think!

Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-19 18:10:00 UTC

Feck, at least you found out before your next TD.

I always try to be carefull when straping it down just in case it blows sommat.

BASH69

BASH69

2011-05-19 18:49:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2011-05-19 20:17:00 UTC

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BASH69

BASH69

2011-05-20 08:42:00 UTC

I spoke to KTech today, apparently SDR shocks are notorious for wearing thier oil seals, every single WP shock theyve rebuilt has had the oil seal either failed or close to failure.

He thinks because they were manufactured in 2007 and just sat around there was no movement & lubrication on the seal so it just dried out and failed. He did say say what we paid for them was still a fookin bargain even when adding the cost of a rebuild

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2011-05-20 18:14:00 UTC

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Sabre

Sabre

2011-05-20 19:06:00 UTC

Nice write up Jody sounds like you've got Cadwell sussed

Stupid Luke

Stupid Luke

2011-05-20 20:13:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-20 20:58:00 UTC

I remember that guy.
He gave me a few tips!

Sabre

Sabre

2011-05-20 21:12:00 UTC

I hear what ya saying Luke,and i dont know about the validity of Jody's 1.46 lap but credit where it's due, he is fast around Cadwell and that can't be disputed,and ride he can

Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-20 21:15:00 UTC

Agreed Sabre, we're not saying for one minute Jody is the same bag as Luke's specialfriend.

Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-20 21:15:00 UTC

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Twisted Jester

Twisted Jester

2011-05-20 23:22:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-20 23:36:00 UTC

OUCH!

BASH69

BASH69

2011-05-21 08:48:00 UTC

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Superdan

Superdan

2011-05-21 14:33:00 UTC

I recorded Jody on my phone yes, it is a cheap phone so the timing could could be out. He made me say he was really really fast.






Seriously though I was timing and it was about 1:46 to 1:48 mark.

Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-05-21 14:56:00 UTC

That does settle it, I wouldn't expect Dan to fib about ANYTHING.




(Unless he pushed a newspaper seller over and killed him.)

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2011-06-09 20:07:00 UTC

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Jody

Jody

2011-06-11 12:22:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-06-11 13:30:00 UTC

I find mine saves me a little bit of time every upshift around a lap, then throws it all back away when the missed gear occurs.

Superdan

Superdan

2011-06-11 14:14:00 UTC

It does sound like a good mod, would love a try on it, just been trying clutchless changes today.

However would need rearsets for my bike before I could get one, at least with some rearsets I could have a reloctaed back brake that works too

Jody

Jody

2011-06-12 06:50:00 UTC

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Superdan

Superdan

2011-06-12 06:55:00 UTC

I ended up sticking the reverse shift pattern on as changing gear on the SD was so bad, and I still missed gears

Just think the gear box did not like high speed/revvy changes, it was like when I tried to go up th box it felt like I was in 6th and did not want to go any further.

BASH69

BASH69

2011-06-12 09:03:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

Ducati Pete

2011-06-12 17:01:00 UTC

Pre QS, a missed gear was VERY rare on either of my lovely Superdukes.

Superdan

Superdan

2011-06-12 17:51:00 UTC

I had the issue with every sprocket/oil type. My Sd's gearbox was a bitch on track (road was fine) wasted loads of time on the straights, tried clutchless, moving position of lever, but reverse gear change kit showed the best improvement.

My left toe used to blister after a days riding on track as I was trying so hard to whack it up the gears, sometimes it would take 3 goes to get it in gears 4, 5 and 6 sometimes.

Its visible and audible on some of my old Cadwell vids.

However thats the only plus of the Tuhomo, lovely gearbox, not missed a gear yet