Rockingham International Sat 12th May

BASH69

2012-05-03 19:58:00 UTC

With No Limits, £90 after TDR discount. Nice an cheap left handed cicuit, get in before they tear it down and build houses on it http://www.nolimitstrackdays.com/acatal ... 20512.html

Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-03 22:11:00 UTC

You evil temptress you

Never done the international circuit. Could be fun though. I'll book it tomorrow.

stalker

2012-05-03 22:25:00 UTC

you guys are killing me with all these trackdays, i work for myself and have a couple of blokes but i am just too busy , made worse by this bad weather.
and yet here you are off on another with no thought how that might affect others

Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-03 22:36:00 UTC

Don't mention the weather

BASH69

2012-05-04 10:24:00 UTC

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2012-05-04 10:25:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-04 15:46:00 UTC

I'm booked in as well m8 Going to do as many days as I can while the money lasts.

BASH69

2012-05-04 18:23:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-04 18:52:00 UTC

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BASH69

2012-05-04 20:18:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-10 16:37:00 UTC

Looking good with 36 hours to go

BASH69

2012-05-10 18:42:00 UTC

Yep - tiny showers maybe around lunchtime but apart from that looking good

Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-10 18:58:00 UTC

I've got a good feeling the sun is going to shine on us all day m8

BASH69

2012-05-10 19:49:00 UTC

Keep dancing beeeatch - keep dancing

Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-12 03:52:00 UTC

Woop woop! I'm up, the sky is cloud free. Porridge, uber strong coffee, shit and shower and I'm ready to go

BASH69

2012-05-12 20:08:00 UTC

Awesome day and awesome weather!

NL ran a cracking day, hardly any loss of track time and a whole 8 spots of rain at 4pm!

Only gripe was they now sonund test so me and Clink had to split up as we set off the drive by sound tester and Clinky got black flagged for it

Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-12 20:21:00 UTC

That^^

Really good day but getting up at 4.30am is not the way to put in faster lap times as the day goes on. Session 2 had my fastest lap at 1.44 and change. Still had a great day, loved the new slicks. Lots of grip and after a full 7 sessions they hardly seem to have worn at all. And Rockingham is hard on the left handside of the tyre. Me likey

stalker

2012-05-12 20:28:00 UTC

tossers . .they think they can just chuck a 98db limit out there and people are gonna take it lying down like a pussy and just suck it up . without even putting up a fight .....

what did you tell them klinck ?

BASH69

2012-05-12 20:38:00 UTC

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Stupid Luke

2012-05-12 20:51:00 UTC

Pretty soon every trackday will be like most Gym chains; 'we've already had your money, what do you mean you want to use the facilities?'

Enduroland seems to be going the same way once you have paid it is any excuse to send you home with no refund or keep your tracktime to a minimum.

I think we have done enough to appease the noise nazis. Let us put some pressure back on the TDO's. If everyone states, at time of booking, my bike is tested at 102/104/105 db and I require a refund if unable to participate The TDO will have to pass that requirement on to the track owner and they will have to comply.

There are TDO's getting rich from sending people home early and stopping others from riding in an event they have prepaid for. I say enough is enough.

My personal view is also to include a disclaimer along the lines of ' I have previously attended a breifing at one of your events within the last 12 months and hence do not need to listen to your patronising waffle and belittling 'be on your best behaviour lads' speech again'

If everyone did this trackdays would still be 8 sessions of 3 groups with no bullshit attempts to steal time from us.

Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-12 21:04:00 UTC

That's some good ranting Luke

BASH69

2012-05-13 06:54:00 UTC

A quick vid - pretty un-eventful though im afraid!

Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-13 08:14:00 UTC

Nice one Stew. I just watched a couple of laps of mine and just kept thinking "oh ffs Craig man up!... get on the gas!.. no I said ON the GAS!!"

My weakest point by a county mile is getting on the gas out of corners

scotsduke

2012-05-13 08:29:00 UTC

KLINK CORRECT ME IF I,M WRONG but is it not when you get on the gas to early is when your sd(exc)spit,s you off

Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-13 08:39:00 UTC

My EXC spits me off at any given opportunity m8 Its still sulking in the garage from the last time. SD has only spat me off twice and both were the front letting go at the apex. Not something I can blame on my throttle hand.

KTM666

2012-05-13 09:06:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-13 09:18:00 UTC

Yeah I know what you mean and it may have been a contributing factor in my crashes but its not what my main problem is. That appears to be lack of a big enough ball sack

Using Pirelli Diablo Superbike Pro Slick. Really good tyre, plenty of grip and hard wearing.

TLS_Russ

2012-05-13 09:34:00 UTC

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KTM666

2012-05-13 09:43:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-13 10:05:00 UTC

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Viking

2012-05-13 10:37:00 UTC

Russ. That's utter bollocks

You can lose the front in two ways. Too much load. Or unloading at the wrong time. Prime example, go and watch GoGos Laguna video. Every time he loses the front its on the throttle after the apex. My crash at Knockhill, on the throttle.

Can't be fooked to get into an internet debate about it but your talking shite again. Tbh there too much of this pish going on in here these days.

Please prove this theory to my be going into Island bend at Oulton flat in 5th, tip it on its ear, and let me know what happens.

Get on a trackday. Put in a decent time to prove yourself. Then I'll listen to your waffle.

BASH69

2012-05-13 11:01:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-13 12:02:00 UTC

TLS_Russ

2012-05-13 12:14:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

2012-05-13 13:12:00 UTC

To be fair to Russ, there is a rule of thumb employed by people like Roberts / Code that, in the dry, you won't loose the front if you're on the gas.
For the biggest part I would agree with that.

Of course, it's possible to disprove that rule, especialy if you have the special needs geometry of a superduke.

TLS_Russ

2012-05-13 13:53:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

2012-05-13 14:00:00 UTC

So you don't feel that it turns unusually quick? (Which is nice)
You don't feel a lack of feel if you decide to trail the brakes heavily into a corner? (Come to think of it you won't on the road.)

TLS_Russ

2012-05-13 14:41:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

2012-05-13 15:28:00 UTC

I like to trail the brakes properly at certain corners, obviously to reduce the distance between initial braking point and apex.
Like I said, it's not something you'd really do on the road.

TLS_Russ

2012-05-13 16:07:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

2012-05-13 17:02:00 UTC

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TLS_Russ

2012-05-13 17:23:00 UTC

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Viking

2012-05-13 17:56:00 UTC

Keith Code is a bigger drawback than an elephants foreskin.

Nobody is trying to turn it into a sportsbike at all. All that's happening is at decent track pace it shows a few shortfalls in the bikes basic design. It doesn't need much to dial these out. It's not a case of riding it like a sportsbike. It's a case of when a reasonable pace is reached a few certain basic riding techniques are required. Trail braking, loading the front, carrying corner speed at high lean angles. In these situations a few small features of the bikes design are at their limits.

It is fun. It's huge fun. That's why guys like myself are pursuing it. Because the bike, once a few tweaks are made, is very capable and a riot to ride. It's not like a finely tuned pure sportsbike. It likes to be ridden loaded up. It moves around, it bucks, it likes to be ridden hard and aggressively. The fun is getting mugged at the end of the straight by an R1 then out breaking it into the next corner and clearing off on the exit with the thing shaking, moving, and making all kinds of shapes.

BASH69

2012-05-13 17:57:00 UTC

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scotsduke

2012-05-13 18:08:00 UTC

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Ducati Pete

2012-05-13 18:10:00 UTC

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BASH69

2012-05-13 18:32:00 UTC

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BASH69

2012-05-13 18:44:00 UTC

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TLS_Russ

2012-05-14 06:56:00 UTC

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KTM666

2012-05-14 07:34:00 UTC

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TLS_Russ

2012-05-14 08:23:00 UTC

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Viking

2012-05-14 08:36:00 UTC

Go back and read my posts. I never once personally insulted you or name called. Yet you seem to think it fine for you to drag insults into it now.

That second post was well constructed to explain to you why things are going in the direction they are.

I've not said anything here I wouldn't say to your face.

I did have a reasonable opintion of you until his thread tbh. But reading the way you've conducted yourself and the points you've made regarding riding its clear your not quite the man you try to make out.

Here's an open offer for you. Come and ride my bike. You seem to have such a strong opinion of the work I've done. Come and ride it. I'm down south at least once a month. Book yourself on and take it out. You portray an image of a guy who knows how to ride and knows a lot about set up. Fair enough. I've put 9months of set up work into it. Come and ride it.

TLS_Russ

2012-05-14 09:14:00 UTC

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Viking

2012-05-14 15:07:00 UTC

Read it all again. Yep, understand.

Fair doos Russ. Tbh in real life I talk similar to my 1st post but I can see how aggressive it reads.

Doubt I'll be down as far as Snetterton as its 8hrs away. But if I am I'll let you know.

CEREC1

2012-05-14 20:25:00 UTC

We going to need these in Spain in September or will Racetecs or 211's good enough?
Slick' s that is

BASH69

2012-05-14 20:41:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-14 20:56:00 UTC

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CEREC1

2012-05-14 21:32:00 UTC

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KTM666

2012-05-15 05:31:00 UTC

I have only seen rain there once during the day...(and I have been in February- Late October)......it rained (light rain) for half an hour and the track never got wet ANY Pirellis or Metzler tyres (FE tyre prices are not bad £275.00 for a set of Dunlop slicks....some times better as they do offers) so if you intend to use Pirellis or Metzler it will be worth taking a new rear...so you are running on a matched set rather than being forced to run what FE have in stock (front will last no problem)

TLS_Russ

2012-05-16 06:44:00 UTC

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BASH69

2012-05-16 21:06:00 UTC

Photos are up here -

http://www.peterwilemanphotography.com/ ... BIKES.html

There all abit shite to be fair but i did find 1 interesting 1 , it appears Clinky fancies a little Hokey Cokey through the right hander -

http://www.peterwilemanphotography.com/ ... il/1976552

Cant get the image to show here so heres the link above ^^^^^^^^^^

Colonel_Klinck

2012-05-16 21:11:00 UTC

KTM666

2012-05-17 06:01:00 UTC

Klinck

This is an interesting take on the trend for hanging the leg out in corners

http://www.peterwilemanphotography.com/ ... il/1976552

.......but I thought it was meant to be on the same side you were leaning