I should pick up my very first SD tomoz and want to do a couple of track days so have a few questions. Have done a couple of searches and found a little info but not exactly what Im after.
1. I was going to get a full kit with sliders and engine/clutch covers but one post I saw said the clutch cover is quite cheap to replace. Is it the same for the engine cover (assume opposite side) also?
2. Will paddock stand bobbins do for rear axle sliders or should I get them two (or is there a brand that does both in one i.e. a slider/bobbin
Keenaz
2012-09-11 11:10:00 UTC
Bert
2012-09-11 11:52:00 UTC
Post missing.
rocketchick
2012-09-11 13:46:00 UTC
I have the GB racing set minus the axle sliders.
The upper and lower sliders are good quality, but the protection for the clutch & Ignition covers are thin CHEESY plastic that leaves something to be desired.
Some members on here that have crashed will have firsthand knowledge of crash protection and how their bikes faired. It's because of their posts that prompted to me buy crash bungs.
The upper and lower sliders are good quality, but the protection for the clutch & Ignition covers are thin CHEESY plastic that leaves something to be desired.
Some members on here that have crashed will have firsthand knowledge of crash protection and how their bikes faired. It's because of their posts that prompted to me buy crash bungs.
MADDOG53
2012-09-11 13:49:00 UTC
Crash survivability is where it's at,,punch a hole in the clutch cover and you ain't going to ride home,Moto Hooligan's cover has a derilin re-placable slider, very nice,I also went with a GSG moto ignition slider as it more closley matches the Hooligan clutch side than anything else, made of derilin also,,,stand bobbins "will", could, break off" causing swing arm damage,,IE , snapping off the mount hole,,you should run some axle sliders in conjunction with "smaller stand bobbins" to lessen that chance,,went with "Harris machine" variety on mine,,smaller than the axle sliders,nice kit,,I really should remove them however as I use a Moto MFG stand that does not require "bobbins"on the swing arm,,to remove the chance of busting off the bracket, altogether ,,,all crash pads "can possibly" cause frame damage or "snap off" in the right crash,Moto Hooligan say's his won't snap off,,,the only manufacturer that states this that I've found is SATO,,on there web page,,,Top-Blocks are expensive but they have a firm three point mounting with a steel frame that covers the water pump housing as well,,,I went with these as they don't look like hi-way pegs,,fit perfect,,look like a factory item IMO, 3rd page of the topic "show your mullerd SD" a member states that they "saved the day" on his machine,,,
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Best to e-mail T-B directly, for price and shipping
http://top-block.com/index.php
GSG
http://www.whaccessories.com/KTM-Slider ... e-R-05.htm
Count zero's TB expeirance
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19365&start=50
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Best to e-mail T-B directly, for price and shipping
http://top-block.com/index.php
GSG
http://www.whaccessories.com/KTM-Slider ... e-R-05.htm
Count zero's TB expeirance
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19365&start=50
Keenaz
2012-09-12 11:20:00 UTC
Thanks for the feedback guys. Good point on having the protection there just in case, point!
I have emailed Top Block so we'll see what they say.
I have emailed Top Block so we'll see what they say.
Agent Orange
2012-09-12 12:08:00 UTC
Hi mate,
I can vouch for the GB Racing uppers/lowers - they've saved me thousands of dollars after three crashes (one on road, one at Lakeside (hungry corner) and one at Morgan Park in Warwick (turn three..)).. Great quality and easy/cheap to get replacement sliders..
I also have axle sliders I bought off Ebay. Have never really needed engine cover protection, no major damage just a scratch at the bottom and some gravel rash. I've only had lowsides though.. The SD crashes well with the GB, I've always been able to ride home
I can vouch for the GB Racing uppers/lowers - they've saved me thousands of dollars after three crashes (one on road, one at Lakeside (hungry corner) and one at Morgan Park in Warwick (turn three..)).. Great quality and easy/cheap to get replacement sliders..
I also have axle sliders I bought off Ebay. Have never really needed engine cover protection, no major damage just a scratch at the bottom and some gravel rash. I've only had lowsides though.. The SD crashes well with the GB, I've always been able to ride home
SDNerd
2012-09-12 16:26:00 UTC
Motovation (http://www.motovationusa.com)
Uppers, lowers, front and rear axles, bar ends.
Crashed 'em. All did their job impressively well. Like all such products, they are hideous additions, but easily cost-justified as sacrificial. Nice thing (here), is that spares are readily available.
I don't know that a specific brand is super important as long as they work. Right - clutch cover too cheap to bother protecting or replacing with some ridiculously expensive thing. Opposite side really doesn't stick out as far. If using something like GB's or Motovation's sliders and you collect the left side case cover on something in a crash, you're going to have other bigger problems. No amount of kevlar/carbon cover ups is going to prevent damage in that scenario.
Worth noting, that unlike the Ricky-racers here, I don't use rearsets on my SD. It's a street bike I occasionally run at the track for grins. I'm a wus, and generally don't like to run fixed pegs on the street. Also, there are too many reports of frame bending from crashes, where the rearsets fasten (because they don't yield as well as they should). Using fixed pegs or rearsets with various sliders may provide additional protection, but usually at the expense of the pegs and rearsets - and possibly the frame.
Instead of the worthless (hazardous IMO) rubber-topped OEM footpegs, I use the stubby "racing" length cylindrical pegs from LSL-Spiegler. Still fold when making contact or in a crash, but have fine grip even when wet. They also have a longer (wider WRT to the boot) undercut peg. Sadly, they don't come in orange anodize.
Uppers, lowers, front and rear axles, bar ends.
Crashed 'em. All did their job impressively well. Like all such products, they are hideous additions, but easily cost-justified as sacrificial. Nice thing (here), is that spares are readily available.
I don't know that a specific brand is super important as long as they work. Right - clutch cover too cheap to bother protecting or replacing with some ridiculously expensive thing. Opposite side really doesn't stick out as far. If using something like GB's or Motovation's sliders and you collect the left side case cover on something in a crash, you're going to have other bigger problems. No amount of kevlar/carbon cover ups is going to prevent damage in that scenario.
Worth noting, that unlike the Ricky-racers here, I don't use rearsets on my SD. It's a street bike I occasionally run at the track for grins. I'm a wus, and generally don't like to run fixed pegs on the street. Also, there are too many reports of frame bending from crashes, where the rearsets fasten (because they don't yield as well as they should). Using fixed pegs or rearsets with various sliders may provide additional protection, but usually at the expense of the pegs and rearsets - and possibly the frame.
Instead of the worthless (hazardous IMO) rubber-topped OEM footpegs, I use the stubby "racing" length cylindrical pegs from LSL-Spiegler. Still fold when making contact or in a crash, but have fine grip even when wet. They also have a longer (wider WRT to the boot) undercut peg. Sadly, they don't come in orange anodize.
MADDOG53
2012-09-13 21:52:00 UTC
I really like the LSL sliders from Germany.....I had them on a Daytona675 that I high sided at the track, enough to break off the key, instruments, bars and alloy block that holds the front fairing in place. According to witnesses, as I was a little busy wondering why my left forearm now bent in three places, the bike then slid for a little distance and there were no holes in any of the casings on either side, the pins holding the sliders in place were slightly bent outboard of the engine block and the pucks which are replaceable were ground down. I've just ordered a set for $ 185 Canadian. Bonus is they make orange pucks
BlueFlame
2012-09-15 14:42:00 UTC