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OpenFlash for the 1290

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-04-07 21:13:00 UTC

Anyone purchased OpenFlash for the 1290? http://www.openflashtablet.com/shop/ope ... superduke/ If so any feedback? Does it offer all the benefits of TuneECU (other than TuneECU being free of course). Anyone used it for a car or another bike?

jmann

jmann

2017-04-07 22:00:00 UTC

Sounds too good to be true...

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-04-07 22:36:00 UTC

I've had some back and forth by email with them. They have maps for version 1 but they don't have any maps for the 2017 as they haven't got their hands on one yet. He thinks he'll be able to gain access to QS and blipper, TC maps ect. Obviously $699 isn't cheap, however it is cheaper than a PC5 if you add the ignition module but potentially offers a hell of a lot more.

Found this with a google search. Appears they know their stuff when it comes to cars. Was hoping someone in the US might know something about them.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46723

whufc0

whufc0

2017-04-08 08:21:00 UTC

Time we pay the customs etc I was looking at it a while ago, but got the pc5 now

Willh

Willh

2017-04-08 11:00:00 UTC

Interested in this for one of my cars.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-04-08 18:23:00 UTC

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DribbleDuke

DribbleDuke

2017-04-08 19:00:00 UTC

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Aphex

Aphex

2017-04-08 20:59:00 UTC

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whufc0

whufc0

2017-04-08 21:28:00 UTC

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Sarasota_Steve

Sarasota_Steve

2017-04-08 22:31:00 UTC

I'm in Florida. I can help. PM me if all y'all want

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-04-08 23:43:00 UTC

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Sarasota_Steve

Sarasota_Steve

2017-04-08 23:45:00 UTC

Klinky, I'll b visiting London in July. Might hook up w No 47 and maybe Bic at the Bike Shed. I might b able to hand deliver it to you if the whole transaction goes through.

Lowrance

Lowrance

2017-04-09 00:37:00 UTC

"Big power gains"...color me dubious.

Proceed with caution Klink....Lots of snake oil salesmen around these parts.

fasteddy

fasteddy

2017-04-09 02:18:00 UTC

FWIW
A friend at work has a FR-S and has talked about there products and I believe is saving up to get the tuning setup for his car. I will check in with him about there products on Monday and report back...

jmann

jmann

2017-04-09 09:49:00 UTC

Comrades: I'd love to be proven wrong but my suspicion is that they're reputable with cars and their thinking is how hard could it be? If it was easy why is it that Alain at TuneECU hasn't done it. Ecuwest also claim to be able to do this but I've never seen or heard of anyone that can show a map that is different to an original or an Akro map. I'm pretty confident that I could load a standard map or an Akro map but there's not much point in only being able to do that.

Klinky I'll put up $AU50 If you buy one to try... I note a fair bit of discontent about canned maps.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-04-09 09:50:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-04-09 10:01:00 UTC

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fasteddy

fasteddy

2017-04-12 02:21:00 UTC

So today at work I sat in an FR-S and got to see the OpenFlash in action! It does look pretty cool and works as advertised. He has maps that other people have made that he has downloaded and loaded into it via a USB cable and then into the ECU via the OBDII. Custom tuning can be done by using other tools to edit the ROM file, He uses a tool called Rom Raider, It sounds pretty much like TuneECU from the description. He speaks very highly of the company and says they are very reputable.

http://imgur.com/a/0OGSP

The link should go to some pics...

jmann

jmann

2017-04-12 12:01:00 UTC

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fasteddy

fasteddy

2017-04-12 13:40:00 UTC

The photos were taken in my co workers Toyota FR-S, same vehicle as a Subaru BRZ, the car is a joint effort and is interesting to see an engine with Subaru on some parts and Toyota on others. When I asked him about it I did not realise he had already purchased one and we walked out to the parking lot and I saw it in action, on an FR-S, He opened the glove box pulled it out and plugged it into the OBDII plug and started the car.

I actually saw the unit connected and showing live data, the various maps loaded and the * showing the current file in the ECU, I have also seen the software used to load it via USB as my co worker borrowed one of my windoze tablets to load it, at that time I was not curious about the tuning solution. "romraider" is a free tool created specifically for Subaru ECU's.

No I have not seen it on a 1290, as I stated above I knew he was familiar with the product and company as it applies to the FR-S. If anyone has a 1290 with this product within driving distance of me I would be willing to check it out. I would also be curious if OpenFlash has or knows of software to manipulate the files.

I am merely reporting objectively about what I did see and making no claims or endorsements.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-04-12 19:34:00 UTC

A guy with a 2015 1290 in the UK has ordered it and his tuner is going to give it a go. He doesn't live far from me and I'm friends with him on FB. Will keep you updated with how it goes. Fingers crossed it's a winner.

fasteddy

fasteddy

2017-04-13 00:38:00 UTC

I am kind of curious myself as to what this device is capable of. I am guessing that it is similar to a Rexxer unit. Would be nice if we are able to reset error codes, adaptive parameters and tweak other things. I wonder what kind of maps will be available for 1290 version 1. Hopefully a map for full akro and either Rotty or motohooligan airbox.
It would very much have to be worth purchasing for me since I will will be converting 699 USD to canadian pesos.
waiting anxiously...

Sarasota_Steve

Sarasota_Steve

2017-04-18 04:37:00 UTC

FWIW,
I did some more research on the OpenFlash products for the Ducati and BMW and even down loaded the TunerPro software to check it out. I then sent an email to OpenFlash to confirm what parameters would be available and that it would use the same TunerPro platform, this is from the email I just got back:

"The Tuner Pro interface will be fully mappable per cylinder and per gear. it’s just about as tune-able as it could be "

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-04-18 11:58:00 UTC

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jmann

jmann

2017-07-26 02:10:00 UTC

Is there any info to update this thread? I am considering one of these but would like to know what else it is capable of on our 1290's.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-07-27 07:20:00 UTC

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Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-07-27 10:09:00 UTC

Someone has one here in the UK now. His tuner is working with it. Apparently you have incredible access to ECU. Fuel tables per cylinder, ignition tables, sensors such as SAS, lambda, error codes ect to turn on or off or clear. Not sure yet if TC ect can be adjusted on older bikes. The problem seems to be the developer Shiv seems to be a bit paranoid and flaky. You have to send files read off the ECU back to him and then he sends you tuning software. With the time difference that can mean lots of waiting while he is still in bed. It appears to have huge potential but we will have to wait and see.

You can follow Lee's progress or lack of it as the case might be on Superduke Carnage page on FB.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-07-27 12:18:00 UTC

It sure would be nice if we could also adjust the throttle ramp angles - any word of this?

Scotty

Scotty

2017-07-27 17:48:00 UTC

Join the Superduke Carnage FB page and ask Shiv Pathak. He is the guy behind Openflash and can answer your questions far better than I can.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-09-06 21:09:00 UTC

I was going to start a new thread but this thread seems to be more appropriate.

My little review on the OpenFlash Tablet (OFT)

As good as the PCV and Autotune is, I have never been a fan of piggyback devices on my bike.
For the longest time I had been considering the Rexxer tablet but for some strange reason never
got around to purchasing it and that may have been because I had to make the purchase out of europe,
so support would most likely have been an issue.

Then the OpenFlash Tablet (OFT) was mentioned a few times on a couple of KTM forums, so I decided to look into that.
Long story short, I decided to purchase the tablet. For us Canadians it is pricey when you factor in the
exchange rate and any other rediculous fees our government chooses to take. In the end it was worth it.

After receiving the OFT, I connected it to the bike so that it could download the stock tune from my ECU. I then emailed the tune, along with the config of my bike to Shiv at OpenFlash so that he could come up with a tune for me. I was rather surprised to see a tune in my inbox the next day. I loaded the tune onto my OFT and flashed the tune to the bike thinking that there is no wasy this could be a good tune, having been made up that quickly.
With tune loaded I started up the bike, let it warm up a bit and went for a ride. First thing I noticed was the dreaded hanging idle, which all but disapeared
after riding for about 30 minutes. Hanging idle seems to be a symptom of flashing the ecu as I had it when the akra map was loaded. It also went away after a lengthy ride. Maybe that is why adaptive parameters have to be reset.

The first ride with this tune just blew me away. It was just as good if not better than my Autotuned PCV tune. The other thing that I noticed was that the bike was smoother at the cruising rpm. I continued to ride with the tune and make a mental note of anything that did not feel right. So far I have found nothing wrong with the tune.
Condidering OpenFlash is 1300 miles away from me, Shiv did an amazing job with this tune. Now I am starting to wonder what the tune would be like if my bike was tuned on a dyno by Shiv. If I lived in california I would have let Shiv have his way with my bike.

I sent an email off to OpenFlash to see if he can adjust the throttle ratio......good news. YES HE CAN. Shive tweaked the tune to make the throttle a bit more aggressive.
I loaded the tune and noticed a difference but it still was not enough for me. The next tune he sent was nearly a 1:1 ratio. I loaded the tune, went for a ride and giggled the entire time. What a blast BUT, nearly 1:1 is not a safe ratio in 1st and 2nd gear. Throttle is very twitchy, difficult to smooth shift into 2nd and you better be 101 percent aware while you ride in 1st or 2nd gear or you will loose the bike. I am now waiting for a tune where the throttle is about 1/3 more aggressive fromt the first tune he sent me. I can hardly wait and will most likely leave it at what he sends me. I can always load the nearly 1:1 tune if I want some real dangerous fun.

So far the only other things you can do with the OFT is clear codes, reset the "neutral" indicator and some very basic diagnostics. Shiv says that within the next few weeks there will be a firmware update which will bring in "data logging" (I think) and other functions. I am hoping for adaptive parameter reset.

For those of you in the know, you can download TunerPro and load a special file that you need to get from Shiv so that you can do your own tuning. I have looked at the software with my map loaded and chose not to play with anything as I do not understand the info in the cells and what they all mean or represent.

Those of you that have been on the fence with this tablet can finally get off the fence. If I had to do it all over again, I would have gone straight to the OFT. Go for it, you will not regret it and you will get top notch customer service at the same time.

I hope to see other 1290 owners go the OFT route and I'm pretty sure that OpenFlash would like to see the same. In the end I believe we will all benefit.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-09-06 21:34:00 UTC

thanks for the review- have been considering this (lots of action on the AF1 website for Tuono's), or a RapidBike. Hope to see other reviews!

OzBeast

OzBeast

2017-09-07 04:14:00 UTC

vernonbc - its always good to hear peoples reports and thanks for taking the time to write something of your experience with the OFT and their backup support.
Also very good to hear that finally we can make adjustments to the throttle ramp angles - I believe this is going to finally make the 1290 into a "bit of a beast".
Please keep us posted
thanks.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-09-08 07:35:00 UTC

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Markey

Markey

2017-10-19 19:23:00 UTC

I ordered an OFT for my 2016 SDR 1290 this morning. I don't like piggyback devices much either, if it can be done with an ECU flash that is my strong preference.

Colonel_Klinck

Colonel_Klinck

2017-10-20 23:24:00 UTC

I won't go near it while the bike is under warranty. KTM are looking for any reason not to honour warranty claims. I'm not convinced they wouldn't be able to detect this flash. If they can see how long you take to warm the bike up before you ride, how high you rev'ing it, where you ride it, motorway/city/open roads ect I'm not sure they couldn't see this. I was speaking to a dealer I know today and he said everything is stored in the ECU and if I bought my bike in he could tell me exactly how I've been riding it since new. Everytime I've bounced the limiter, if I've got near the limiter on downshifts, top speeds. You name it it's been logged.

jmann

jmann

2017-10-21 08:14:00 UTC

Hmmm, I wonder how long it will be before this in-built datalogging can be sized by the police and used in court?

jmann

jmann

2017-10-31 09:08:00 UTC

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46doohanok

46doohanok

2018-06-07 14:05:00 UTC

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