In a recent championship race in the AMA Superbike class Tommy Hayden passed his team mate, which put his teamate in second place in the championsip on the last race. He was then overtaken by his teamate Blake Young and reinstituted his standing in a possible championship victory. Tommy wasnt done with him and again placed a pass at turn one that didnt stick and he tucked the front and left the championship in the hands of the factory Yamaho rider Josh Hayes. I am a firm believer in team orders and feel that his shinagins could have cost his teamate a championship. I would fire him and look for a more mature rider that would place his bike between compitition at all costs when the time came that such was duly neccesary.
I have looked for places on web talk that may talk such chastification and have found none.
DribbleDuke
2011-09-07 04:17:00 UTC
Ducati Pete
2011-09-07 09:11:00 UTC
In the last few races yes.
Rexr
2011-09-07 14:10:00 UTC
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Dutch
2011-09-07 14:16:00 UTC
Team orders are good for teams, but not for individual racers, or for fans.
I think we should let each rider race as individuals, and the championship points should fall where they do as a result of racing, regardless of which team any rider is in. Seeing a fast rider back off to let his team mate win is bad enough... Seeing a rider block another rider who is challenging his team mate's points is out of order.
That's the logical argument.
Straight from the heart: Team orders suck, and as a passionate fan of motorsport, I oppose them.
I think we should let each rider race as individuals, and the championship points should fall where they do as a result of racing, regardless of which team any rider is in. Seeing a fast rider back off to let his team mate win is bad enough... Seeing a rider block another rider who is challenging his team mate's points is out of order.
That's the logical argument.
Straight from the heart: Team orders suck, and as a passionate fan of motorsport, I oppose them.
DribbleDuke
2011-09-07 16:20:00 UTC
Last race. If Tommy Hayden( no where near contention) stayed where he was his team mate would could have been champion. Trying a pass into turn one at intoohot speed, left him with a crashed bike and his TEAMATE with a great conversation over tea mate.
KTM666
2011-09-07 16:38:00 UTC
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Ducati Pete
2011-09-07 16:39:00 UTC
No-one remembers who finished 2nd in the championship.
Racing is expensive and sponsors want to see their rider winning the championship.
I can understand why with a few races left a team may issue orders.
I can think of a few cases in BSB:
Troy Bayliss slowed at Brands in his first year of BSB to allow Hodgson to pass. Hodgson took the title and Bayliss stayed with the team and won the title the next year.
Also at Brands Emmett made a proper pest of himself with his Reve Racing team mate Renolds who was in a dice for the championship. Emmett didn't have his contract renewed.
I think even a returning from injury Hislop played tailgunner for Nial Mac at Yamaha in the closing round. Earlier in the year he'd knocked him off rather than see him beat him!
Racing is expensive and sponsors want to see their rider winning the championship.
I can understand why with a few races left a team may issue orders.
I can think of a few cases in BSB:
Troy Bayliss slowed at Brands in his first year of BSB to allow Hodgson to pass. Hodgson took the title and Bayliss stayed with the team and won the title the next year.
Also at Brands Emmett made a proper pest of himself with his Reve Racing team mate Renolds who was in a dice for the championship. Emmett didn't have his contract renewed.
I think even a returning from injury Hislop played tailgunner for Nial Mac at Yamaha in the closing round. Earlier in the year he'd knocked him off rather than see him beat him!
DribbleDuke
2011-09-07 18:37:00 UTC
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Grendel
2011-09-08 05:47:00 UTC
there is a difference between team orders and sportsmanship. Team orders should not exist if there is the latter. Grendel thinks it is based upon the honor of the sportsman. team orders suck
DribbleDuke
2011-09-09 03:16:00 UTC
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